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Lightwave Logic Inc

Lightwave Logic Inc (LWLG)

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LWLG Discussion

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The Great Pumpkin The Great Pumpkin 2 hours ago
Does anyone here have the balls to do a mock merger agreement with me?

Make your best sales pitch and I will counter.

Let’s go!

#scam
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The Great Pumpkin The Great Pumpkin 5 hours ago
Keep an eye on this. Cash in the bank and burn rate.

The new “strategy” will significantly lower burn rate since they aren’t working with foundries anymore.

Where will the new burn go? Straight into insiders pockets and the employees they are keeping around to keep the “show” going.

This is a SCAM!

LOCK EM UP!

#scam
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The Great Pumpkin The Great Pumpkin 6 hours ago
AMF didn’t get shit to work. It failed.

#scam
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The Great Pumpkin The Great Pumpkin 6 hours ago
Here is what I know and have verified and this goes for all EOP.

This is the sales line to suck dupe investors into this tech.

“Can be manufactured in standard CMOS fabs.”

Sounds great on the surface but there’s a lot more to it that they aren’t telling you about.

It’s highly prone to failure
It’s complex and expensive
There’s no tooling available
And there’s more… that I can’t disclose

Bottom line they are scamming a story for a paycheck, or research dollars if you want to talk about the others involved.

That said, maybe someday someone will figure it out but that’s not happening anytime soon.

Vaporwave will go bankrupt. Mark it!

#scam
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prototype_101 prototype_101 7 hours ago
Marco, yes, very perceptive on your part, supplier vs competitor perception may very well have been a significant part of the holdup with getting the Tier 1's to ink deals with LWLG, that coupled with the fact that since OFC March 2024 the sheer volume of Tier 1's interested in LWLG's technology haven skyrocketed, and Lebby choosing the "friendly's" as he called them was working with the largest Transceiver makers on 3 continents presumably foregoing the generic 4x200 PIC to work on custom 4x200's with Lasers etc under NDA's with each of these Tier 1's, that would have been a HUGE task for LWLG's limited Devices team! It is hard to say, also, did any of these Tier 1's have LWLG working with THEIR Foundries? These are all hard to know because everything would have been under NDA's, but Lebby did say he was missing his long-standing TImeline goal of 2024 Customer Acceptance "needing a little more time" and pushing that goal into 2025, my assumption would be that there had been excellent progress and that work could be transferred to those Tier 1's internal teams to complete in 2025, I highly doubt ANY of the Tier 1's on 3 continents walked away with the Business Strategy change effected in December 2024, if anything it opened the door for LWLG to be doing business with MANY more Tier 1's since the Devices burden was on their internal Design teams now, no longer on LWLG's Devices team
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MarcoPolo4 MarcoPolo4 9 hours ago
proto there is another possibility for what happened to the 4X200 PIC. They very well could have been far along with the development but that very fact could have been why there was a sudden shutting down of the negotiations with the large transceiver companies. The large transceiver companies likely would not want a supplier of a critical material to also be a competitor in the sales of transceivers. That likely came up in the more advanced negotiations and Michael Lebby did not want to abandon his roadmap.

From the large transceiver makers point of view, it would give an undue amount of control to a small emerging company and could have long term ramifications on competing for sales especially in the next generation for 4X400 PICS. Keeping LWLG as a supplier of a material compartmentalizes their contribution and that means more of the money goes to the other partners. Tom Zelibor made it very clear that LWLG will not be making PICS and they will be a materials company. That was the new direction and I think it was an attempt to break a stalemate and re-engage negotiations. The Tier 1s can make those demands because in reality, LWLG needs them right now than the other way around.
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DA88 DA88 10 hours ago
I was just talking about major foundries that would probably be utilized should we enter into licensing agreement with a T1
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prototype_101 prototype_101 11 hours ago
1) The May 2024 ASM presentation clearly showing the 4x200 PIC was IN QUALIFICATIONS on Slide 29 (see colored coded KEY at top of slide) that is 100% FACT

2) KCC's post revealing that investors learned that 4x200 PIC was being SHIPPED TO CUSTOMERS (obviously for Qualifications based on Slide 29 showing the 4x200 PIC was IN QUALIFICATIONS)

in May a lab engineer said they are "shipping arrayed modulators to customers".

also, the recent May presentation showed "transceiver outsourcing" as 2024 and 2025 activities

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175036677


3) then at PECC in October 2024 investors learned,

PECC facts learned support there being Transceiver partners in late stage Prototyping
__a) RF designs
__b) Reflow considerations
__c) Reference Designs

4) Lebby's ONE AND ONLY TIMELINE had LWLG technology complete and Customer Acceptable planned for 2024

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175498425&txt2find=timeline

but Lebby just recently said that Tier 1's Customer Acceptance was taking "a little longer than expected"

This DOES NOT sound ANYTHING like the utter failure that teddybear is trying to peddle!!!

Lebby said to the Benzinga (Nov 14th 2024) question on the commercialization status,

we've had a lot of interest from Tier 1 companies since then, I've given a few talks and a few updates, but what I can say today is that we have deepening relationships with these folks, and they are not just in the U.S., they are in Europe, as well as in Asia, and so this is interest level, these companies include some of the world's biggest Transceiver component manufacturers

we've been in deep discussions with this, and I'm working very very hard to put together Commercial Agreements on that, and this is something that I've indicated to our shareholders that is taking a little longer than it was expected, but it's also really exciting because now you can start thinking about the scale of our technology, so this is happening and I'm working really hard on it

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175387701

5) In this Podcast released practically coincident with Lebby's abrupt departure from LWLG over the dispute with the BOD on "Business Strategy" investors learned that Lebby found that LWLG tech was more robust than even he had ever imagined in the final set of tests for the Tier 1 Customer Acceptance requirements on "Failure Mechanisms" here

Lebby at 13:45 "Is it robust? is it reliable? is it stable? so we are actually at Lightwave really doing a lot of Reliability, Accelerated Testing, Lifetime Work, in terms of different temperatures, looking at different techniques, you know, trying to really understand how robust this material is, and actually we've been positively surprised, this is more robust than we expected, and we're really excited, and we're in the mode right now of conveying that to the Industry, we're very happy with the performance, we see this as a long-term solution for the Industry in terms of performance, and how this can add value to the optical network, but those are the things we're working on really hard, and as you bring a new technology platform to market, where either you've increased the performance or you've changed the technology itself, you've got to go through these things, and certainly we're going through all of that"

The BOLDED WORDS of Lebby from this podcast are work done in QUALIFICATIONS with Tier 1 Transceiver makers!!!

here is a link to a post that goes more in-depth as to these FAILURE MECHANISMS being part of the QUALIFICATIONS PROCESS
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175532682




6) Lebby has said similar to how there has only been one named Foundry despite investors knowing there are CERTAINLY a number of more Foundries with PDK's, that he would only news release information regarding the PIC array/Transceiver Maker Customer at the time that it made "good business sense" to do so, here

Kevin
Okay. Now I think it’s my last question. Is there a possible scenario where you can name a tier one transceiver maker collaboration partner, whatever, sometime in 2024 before the 4x200 PIC chip is complete? At what stage, basically, can you reveal a serious player who was considering committing to this technology?

Michael Lebby
Our methodology is really simple. It’s got to make good business sense from both sides. I think you’ve asked this question to me last year or the year before, who’s your foundry, who’s your foundry, who’s your foundry, right? We didn’t name any foundries. We just named a foundry because it made good business sense for that particular foundry and it made good business sense for us. We will do the same, apply the same methodology for any partner, whether it’s a package partner, a transceiver partner, or even another foundry. I think that’s the way we want to look at that, and if we see good business and they see good business, good opportunity for both, then yes, we’ll put out a press release, but I’m not going to give any guidance because I think it’s premature right now.


So GUESS WHAT, if Lebby was going NOT give information on unnamed (NDA) Transceiver partners who are the ones working with the 4x200 PIC chip, then Lebby is certainly NOT going to put out any news releases on the 4x200 PIC chips that LWLG is supplying them in their QUALIFICATIONS!!!
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prototype_101 prototype_101 11 hours ago
LWLG won the Optical Integration award at ECOC for what? the OFC 200gb Modulator with World record performance metrics? Yes, but also more likely for the overall work LWLG has been doing to successfully Integrate their Polymers onto Silicon Photonics

We never got the PECC presentation, but Kevin said Atikem talked about late-stage Transceiver prototyping things like RF designs, reflow consideration, reference design

And Lebby was working with largest Transceiver makers on 3 continents, this is a FACT

But in 9 months from OFC to end of 2024 nobody could slap 4 of the 200gbs together either on a generic 4x200 PIC at LWLG, or in custom configuration with lasers etc at/for any of the Tier 1's under NDA? HIGHLY doubtful this was the case!!

Was ASM slide 29 in error? also HIGHLY doubtful!! It clearly showed the 4x200 PIC "In Qualifications" (color coded), and the 4x200 chip was clearly seen on the 200mm wafer in May ASM Lab Tours, there could have even been another Run or two on 200mm Wafers before ECOC, so were these ALL failures of a generic 4x200 PIC? also HIGHLY doubtful this was the case!!

And with an estimated one Wafer being received every two weeks in CO, there could have been many wafer runs to iron out any problems with a generic 4x200 PIC, but I strongly suspect Lebby ditched the generic version in favor of working on custom versions under NDAs with these Tier 1s on 3 continents, and that is the reason we get silence when asking about the 4x200 PIC because all of those developments were under NDA!! HIGHLY likely this was the case!!

So NDA's were mandatorily withholding information from Shareholders on the progress of custom 4x200 PIC Designs from these Tier 1s on 3 continents being worked on by LWLG, these custom designs of 4x200 PICS would include Lasers, etc,, but after 9 months of ongoing engagements with these Tier 1's none of them were willing to close the deals with Lebby (who likely was demanding too much!!), putting the squeeze on little LWLG to commit to their onerous terms!!

So this new "Go to Market" strategy was designed to generate some quick deals and give LWLG better negotiation power with those Tier 1s!!

Lebby ditched the smaller deals that the Dec 2023 letter pointed to closing in 2024 in favor of dancing and romancing only the Tier 1's, Lebby was quoted as saying "What would you rather prefer? One big volume agreement with a Tier 1 or 10 smaller ones?", and so Lebby got a few in to deepening relationships developing their custom 4x200 PIC's, but they stiffed him when it came to the marriage!! And Lebby wanted to keep dancing with them into 2025, but the BOD said NO WAY!!

And so that brings us to today with there now being a seismic shift in BUSINESS STRATEGY, the LWLG Polymer technology remains TONS THE BEST and will become ubiquitous in 3-5 years vindicating Lebby's claim all along, this was Lebby's final message regarding Polymers (in general) AFTER his abrupt departure

Thank you for being a supporter and I wish you and the shareholder team the best going forward. I truly believe EO polymers are going to be ubiquitous and of course they are exciting! Michael

Lastly, remember how many times investors were told LWLG's technology had "Ease of Integration!" just like dropping in the V8 where there was 4 cylinder!! This is why the Industry Insiders voted LWLG over the other finalists in BOTH of the last two years!!!

The company’s (LWLG) innovative efforts were recognized at ECOC 2024, where Lightwave Logic received the Industry Award for Most Innovative Hybrid PIC/Optical Integration Platform. This accolade, bestowed by a committee of industry peers, marks the second consecutive year the company has won this award, reflecting the market’s recognition of their technological advancements.

The 4x200 PIC most certainly was NOT a technical failure like teddybear and all the rest of the MANY Shorts here want the Longs to believe!!, NO WAY!!!
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tedpeele tedpeele 11 hours ago
I’m a bit confused by your post. Lightwave was paying each foundry that they were working with. They literally told shareholders they were working with 5 foundries several years ago at the 2022 asm. It appeared this number had dropped some over time although Proto would tell you it increased dramatically. Unfortunately, it is likely that none of those foundries are the Tier 1 transceiver preferred foundries.

So if AMF is the only one that got things to work on a 200 mm wafer, I have to wonder what were they paying the other foundries to do if it wasn’t the same kind of things. Other foundries were also sending modulators back. Were they not also working on full scale polling on 200mm?

The initial way it was presented was they chose several because they didn’t want to put all their eggs in one basket. I guess we can’t know for sure if they just didn’t have much interest or if they had kitchen recipe problems. We do know, however, that there were kitchen recipe problems along the line early on because Dr. Lebby told the shareholders that.

This is why I think it’s possible and maybe likely that a move into the preferred foundries will not go as smoothly as some hope it will.
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DA88 DA88 11 hours ago
I hope you’re correct, but at this point you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t believe Lebby at his word.

Until we provided evidence to support this, I think the scenario I proposed is more likely.

If we had worked with several major foundries why wouldn’t Yves have commented that once we have a T1 licensing partner that they would direct us to a foundry of their choosing, seven of which we have already worked with previously to perfect EOP application and poling?
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prototype_101 prototype_101 11 hours ago
DA, Lebby has told investors in the past that Yields were extremely high, here is an old post of mine on the topic,

Lebby's been working with at least SEVEN Foundries PDK's for 2 years now, the latest reports from these Foundries that Investors have gotten from Lebby (including pictures) are,

1) the chips are coming back with OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE

2) the Yields are EXTREMELY HIGH

Absolutely LOVE this Lebby quote, EO POLYMERS CAN BE EASILY HANDLED IN STANDARD SILICON FABS USING STANDARD PDK’s

Source is ECOC Market Focus October 2-4, 2023 Lebby presentation
https://www.ecocexhibition.com/visit/market-focus/market-focus-2023-timetable/market-focus-session-information/


Also absolutely LOVE this Lebby quote at 11:30 marker he said "our technology fits really uniquely into Silicon Foundries and WE CAN SCALE INTO VOLUME QUITE EASILY AND EFFECTIVELY, and our technology as you can see from the horizontal bar of this graph, we have a very high figure of merit (FOM) which means we have really great metrics in terms of bringing the voltage down to save power, high bandwidth to send lots of information at higher speeds, and to have the technology at a very small size"

Planet MicroCap Showcase: Vancouver 2023
Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2023
Time: 12:30 p.m. Eastern time Webcast Link: https://www.webcaster4.com/Webcast/Page/2986/48806


For the record, I talked to Lebby one-on-one at the ASM and he reiterated how sensitive all the data from Foundries work had become for competitive reasons, and for those who saw the ASM encore performance Lebby gave in Europe the day after the ASM, Lebby actually spent more time discussing how important it was now to keep secrecy on the Foundries progress, but he assured everybody things were doing great, and investors should take note of the output of the chips from these Foundries as their direct evidence of this fact, as Lebby told investors the chips are coming back showing great performance and the Yields have been exceedingly high
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DA88 DA88 11 hours ago
As far as the foundries, I know LWLG has hinted at working with multiple foundries in the past and it’s been thrown around on these boards, but I think it’s unlikely. Maybe they have, but since Yves mentioned this as an obstacle it reinforces my opinion.

The collaboration with AMF proved the application and poling could be done at the foundry. The patent application has been submitted and our IP protected. We do not know the scale at which this was done, or yields from the production cycle. I would assume it’s not been done on any substantial scale at this time just due to the experimental nature of the production run.

It would make sense that these foundries have not even tried working with Perk at this time because they had no real measurable ROI for exploring this type of application and production run. If we enter into a partnership with a T1, I would imagine their position on working with polymers to support their customer would change immediately now that there is measurable revenue stream associated with their time and successful outcome.

It’s unlikely these foundries would just have elected to try to work with polymers without having a cause to do so. Therefore it’s unlikely there have been technical complications experienced at any foundry of scale that creates an obstacle for development. They probably just don’t/didnt have interest until the material and application was proven possible, as well as the backing of a large partner.
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tedpeele tedpeele 13 hours ago
Well, thanks for talking about it. I’ll give you props for that. It’s amazing that you are just about the only person willing to talk about the two biggest issues that will determine the company’s progress this year.

To be clear - I didn’t say it would take forever. I just said they’re big issues. Remember, I have a short term perspective. I look for any reason to get excited over the next year. These are two big issues from that perspective.

Meaning they are big unknowns and could take a long time to resolve. That disqualifies it from being a stock to get excited about any time in the near future. In other words, traders will go the other way because there’s nothing to get excited about.

X is trying to push the buyout in a short amount of time because he wants to dangle the carrot for the near term, but it won’t work for traders. Way to unknown. It may keep some of you hanging on though.

Regarding the foundries , I allow that perhaps they’ve made progress that will shorten the time for others, but I’ve pointed out the fact that none of the other foundries replicated it. NONE. That suggests to me that they don’t want to or it’s hard or both. That will likely be the same issue with the preferred foundries.

You guys can keep dreaming and being positive and maybe it will work out. But I think you’re learning - albeit very slowly - this is not the guaranteed technology of the future that people here have wanted to believe. The hurdles are vast and deep.

Photonics on the other hand may well be near guarantee. But that doesn’t mean polymers will be. Some here seem to not even know the difference.Clearly, polymers are far less predictable than the company has led shareholders to believe.

Good luck
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x993231 x993231 17 hours ago
He does like to make a mountain out of a mole hill, but that is what he gets paid to do.  I have him and many of his alternate ID's on ignore.  He is good at asking, why, why, why.  

X. Yves is good at doing his thing.  Funny remember when Lebby said if I don't perform by the end of the year you can fire me.  I wonder if he was on notice that a move was afoot to correct the course.
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prototype_101 prototype_101 19 hours ago
Gemini on LWLG's new CEO: Yves LeMaitre brings a wealth of experience in the optical communications industry to Lightwave Logic as its new CEO. Here are some key strengths he brings to the table:  

- Proven Track Record in Leadership and Business Development: LeMaitre has a long and successful career in the photonics industry, with a proven track record in leadership roles at prominent companies like Oclaro (now Lumentum), IPG Photonics, and as a strategic advisor to industry leaders. This experience provides him with a deep understanding of market dynamics, customer needs, and the challenges and opportunities within the optical communications sector.  

- Strong Industry Connections: His extensive network within the industry will be invaluable for building strategic partnerships, identifying new market opportunities, and driving business growth for Lightwave Logic.  

- Focus on Commercialization and Growth: LeMaitre's experience in driving commercialization and business growth at previous companies aligns perfectly with Lightwave Logic's current focus on expanding the market for its polymer-based photonic solutions.  

- Strategic Vision: LeMaitre's strategic vision and ability to navigate complex business landscapes will be crucial as Lightwave Logic seeks to capitalize on the growing demand for high-speed optical components in areas like data centers and artificial intelligence.

By leveraging his industry expertise, strong leadership skills, and strategic vision, Yves LeMaitre is well-positioned to lead Lightwave Logic through its next phase of growth and success.
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jimjet218 jimjet218 22 hours ago
Your two BIG issues are not "BIG" to some of us.

As you yourself said the interaction between the potential "partners" is about data. You are correct in that we don't and can't know when the data will be enough. Could be weeks could be months. I don't see it as a BIG issue. Data, data data. I see it as a strong positive they are asking and it'll happen.

Next you say it's a BIG issue to find a foundry that the potential partner will work with. This is again not a BIG issue. Maybe, as you claim, only one has been successful to date but hardly equates to bigger foundries needing to start from scratch. Engineers at Lightwave logically learned a lot working with AMF and others. I'm also in the belief that AMF would probably be happy to share their process to a larger foundry for the right amount of $$$. ANY large foundry could be up and running producing in record time.

You need to think more out of the box for success rather than everything is doom and gloom or impossible to get done.

All of your posts are mostly looking for the negative and as I predicted the naysayers would nit-pick the presentation apart.


So ..
I addressed your BIG issues and as usual you can have the last say with your negativity.

Jorge
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DanM51 DanM51 1 day ago
"Maybe you should join me in a squirrel suit"....I think we all suspected Spartex was a Furry.🦫🐿
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jeunke22 jeunke22 1 day ago
https://investorshangout.com/lightwave-logics-participation-in-spie-photonics-west-event-196196-/
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spartex spartex 1 day ago
LOL. Maybe you should join me in a squirrel suit off some specific drop cliffs on the Chamonix alps.

That said, I won't introduce you to any of the fine French ladies that accompany the outing. You are on your own big boy! 😆
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Dead On Arrival Dead On Arrival 1 day ago
Do not fret. We have Gumby ready to bring Lightwave into the age of rock&roll.
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LOVELWLG LOVELWLG 1 day ago
Yep. It seems they are doing everything with everybody in the world but can't produce one thing to sell and produce revenue.
Shocking to say the least 🙄
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jeunke22 jeunke22 1 day ago
Lightwaves materials can be poled at scale. There are no reliability or scaling issues standing in the way of concluding deals with companies interested to use Lightwave materials for optical engines and PIC’s ( source: Lightwave management). Foundry (back end) application in a CMOS environment is feasible and relatively easy compared to other new materials ( patent application in process).
The industry is now increasingly looking for new materials to help them stay relevant and competitive in one of the fastest growing markets ever where optical modulators and lasers are the key critical enablers for the AI and data communication markets and so many other market sectors. Even, if I may say so, geo political relevance and humanity’s future.
Of course I could think of many reasons why things could go wrong. That’s not difficult, human ingenuity and financial opportunity however will prevail and drive Lightwave to success.
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Dead On Arrival Dead On Arrival 1 day ago
When you put down the crack pipe, it will be more likely you and Ruud will be skying off the GW Bridge after we r/s at 1 dollar a share.
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PurpleCritter2001 PurpleCritter2001 1 day ago
Off topic --- more on DeepSeek ----- link to Tom's Hardware article ------- https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/u-s-investigates-whether-deepseek-smuggled-nvidia-ai-gpus-via-singapore?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pushly&utm_campaign=All%20Push%20Subscribe

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redspinelpinktopaz redspinelpinktopaz 1 day ago
Yes. Start with GFS where there are videos.
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DanM51 DanM51 1 day ago
Have they been "working" with the "world's best foundries for years"? Everyone should be doubting this by now. 4 years ago they were touting work on two continents, polymer slot, polymer plus, and another one. Now it's seemingly down to one foundry that can produce 200mm wafers of only polymer slot? So, how many can AMF produce? Why aren't they rolling with AMF right now? Why would a tier 1 care which foundry it was, IF THE MODULATOR IS ACCEPTABLE and CAN BE PRODUCED IN VOLUME?

Red, it doesn't make sense. If they have the PDK worked out with AMF for acceptable modulators, why can't bigger foundries work with the same recipe, using the same tools, machines, and
ingredients?......videos of Anthony Yu and Lebby speaking don't cut it anymore.
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The Great Pumpkin The Great Pumpkin 1 day ago
Thank you for letting the world know you are not a serious individual or investor. Do you hear yourself? You'll be lucky to see anything over $4.00 again. Unforeseen another nefarious pump and dump.

#scam
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tedpeele tedpeele 2 days ago
I wish that were true - but that's how it sounds to me starting around the 18 minute mark - listen for several minutes and let me know if you are hearing differently:

I'm really trying to help you here -- I have no dog in this fight anymore, and not even emotionally at this point (very little)...

Click on webcast link: https://www.lightwavelogic.com/

I'm 100% sure AMF is the only foundry they have gotten 200mm full wafers to work on. See the 10Q and PRs - they are the only one mentioned as having done this and surely Dr Lebby could have said if others had done it without naming them -- it was a big deal and he only mentioned AMF.

Yves is saying that's not going to be good enough, it appears.

..
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redspinelpinktopaz redspinelpinktopaz 2 days ago
Your "they have to go out and find the foundry that a partner prefers" makes no sense. They have been working with the world's best foundries for years. The partner's preferred foundry and the ones Lightwave knows are the same.
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Killercliff Killercliff 2 days ago
Depends on how fast it jumps over 100.... does it do it in a week..... if so i stay in till it hits 200..... if it walks up slowly to 100 maybe i dump half and take my profits off the table and let the rest ride until the takeover at 500..... depends on alot of factors.... do shorts start to cover and push the price even higher faster.... All i know is this is my ride or die... in it til the end no matter where that may be!!!!!!
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redspinelpinktopaz redspinelpinktopaz 2 days ago
SPIE seemed to be mostly photons for medical uses. Are there multiple, vertical, medical uses for perk? Seems like there might be more than a hundred from what I saw.
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tedpeele tedpeele 2 days ago
The two big issues I took out of January 9 were first Z repeated twice that potential partners want more clarity on the materials.
He twice said they have to lock down the data for specific series. Similar to what Dr. Lebby had been talking about. Sounds like they’ve almost been too piece meal or that the data from different series is getting jumbled up or something. Potential partners want more clarity on the data. Who knows how much longer that will take?

The second big issue is they have to go out and find the foundry that a potential partner prefers. This was around the 18 minute mark. That means they have to start from scratch with those foundries. Hopefully AMF will be a blueprint, but the fact that none of their existing foundries replicated it does not bode well.That’s a long process. Imo There’s little reason to expect any kind of significant deal until a foundry of their choice can prove that they can actually succeed in working with polymers.

These are two big issues they stressed in that call that no one really talks about here. They’d rather talk about a buyout or this or that. These two wishes aren’t as clear as they could be, but they’re clear enough for me to see that they are significant barriers
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Nrdc92 Nrdc92 2 days ago
Mr. know absolutely nothing. 
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DA88 DA88 2 days ago
What issues have been directly communicated by LWLG? I'm aware of speculated or inferred concerns but nothing thats been outright stated as a problem.

We dont know where or why the in house PIC development stopped, so theres potentially an obstacle there, but we dont know if it was a materials problem. Perhaps it's development was suspended due to the shift in the go to market strategy and unlrelated to a technical obstacle. Again, only speculating here.

I also dont believe whatever series of Perk (6?) they are using for the 400gb speed has completed reliability testing.

Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like wafer poling (recent patent application), reliability on Perk MK? (200gb) and ALD are all resolved at this time.
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Lrc15 Lrc15 2 days ago
Now you’re talking!!!
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tedpeele tedpeele 2 days ago
They’ve already told us several issues that people still seem to be unaware of here. Amazing.

I think the best you can hope for is some notable company agreeing to work together to develop something. Very preliminary. But it won’t be a license deal.
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LWLG-Netherlands LWLG-Netherlands 2 days ago
Mr know it all 😂😂😂
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redspinelpinktopaz redspinelpinktopaz 2 days ago
Could it be, the driver manufactures, that are keeping a lid on our commercialization?
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redspinelpinktopaz redspinelpinktopaz 2 days ago
What if it's over a hundred?
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Lrc15 Lrc15 2 days ago
Once they start signing deals you would have to be an idiot to sell your shares!
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Kentucky123 Kentucky123 2 days ago
"The charts never lie." True

The chart is ugly at best and horrendous at worst. It is oversold on all timeframes. Due for a bounce. I have no knowledge of the company or its' products and am tempted to dip my toe in the water but will not stay for long unless something good transpires. GLTA

PS: This has to have been painful for holders.
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DA88 DA88 2 days ago
Do you disagree that the announcement of a licensing deal will be enough to send the SP high enough for most holders to get our without losses (~$5-7)? I would assume they can lock up one meaningful deal this year that could provide an out for those looking for an exit.

Obviously this remains to be seen, but if they dont have a deal by ASM after Yves stating he's visited with the potential customers while serving on the BOD, theres likely an issue somewhere that we're unaware of.
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Dead On Arrival Dead On Arrival 2 days ago
There would be a lot of distraught investors if that were to happen. Lebby and Gumby filling their heads with untold riches and flashy cars. Posters here extolling the cult like status of the Vulcan and shooting down anyone who questioned his power. Then he is sent packing and the main pumpers tell you they knew it all along and now Pepe LePew is the new king. To the realists here, it was too good to be true.

1)Lebby was ill equipped to handle his role as dealmaker and should have never been hired in this role. Him being canned gives off a stench to the investing public and no one wants to buy this stock even at suppressed levels.

2)Gumby has been a cancer on LWLG since the day he came to work for this company.

3)Bucchi or whatever his last name is should be removed as well. A parasite who collects options for doing zippo.

4)TZ and Darpa. Whatever happened to that connection. Another zero.

Add in other board members who feed from the trough and you can see why this stock is in trouble. The charts never lie.
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Nrdc92 Nrdc92 2 days ago
This is a decaying corpse of a stock. Again, rebalancing of the Russell 3000 happens in June. You'd have to assume - based on the poor price and volume activity - LWLG will be out. Then, as every passive index funds dumps their LWLG shares, the price will crash below a $1. Then it's either a reverse split or back to the pinks. Yves has got four months tops to make something happen. 
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prototype_101 prototype_101 2 days ago
Wrong!! If Shorts had a leg to stand on they would have gotten their capitulation already!! The fact is the Shorts are trapped and the Days to Cover are soaring higher now, Yves will ink deals before the ASM and Shorts will be trapped like the little rats they are, all scrambling for the exits at the same time!!

Jeunke said, Lightwave 170% up in the last 5 years. Not bad.
https://stocks.apple.com/symbol/LWLG

Yup, and let's NOT forget LWLG had ZERO Shorts back then, today there are 20 MILLION Shorts that need to Cover!!

20 MILLION Shorts Covering Deadline Established June 2025, the gauntlet was put down with the issuance of the new CEO and President Incentive Options being FULLY VESTED in 6 months or June of 2025, this is an UNPRECEDENTED MOVE in the entire history of LWLG!! Normally these types of Incentive Compensation Options are issued to vest incrementally over a 5 year period

a couple more things to keep in mind,

1) the latest round of Annual Incentive Comps were issued at $5 strike, and this was at a time the PPS was in 3's!!

2) Leonberger buying up 100,000 options outright and disposing of exactly ZERO!!

Oh and BTW, the fact is that the long-term investors here are not paid to post, it's the unethical bashers who the cat's been dragging in that are paid, from one basher recent post "LWLG not having promise"? Seriously?!!!

Remember, the Industry worked extremely hard in the 80's and 90's for the holy grail of Photonics development which was a stabile Polymer but was largely unsuccessful in ALL their efforts including the largest companies, the government, DOD, DARPA etc, IBM, Lockheed Martin, DuPont, AT&T Bell Labs, Honeywell, Motorola, HP, 3M, and others in addition to numerous universities and U.S. Government Agencies, have attempted to produce high-performance, high-stability electro-optic polymers <<<< literally in the Billions R&D $$ were spent to try to do what LWLG has succeeded in doing!


New highs coming soon!!
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Dead On Arrival Dead On Arrival 2 days ago
I would settle for 2.
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The Great Pumpkin The Great Pumpkin 2 days ago
You should be thankful for the 20 million shorts. They are going to be the only ones supporting the share price on the slide lower. They will also allow you to exit albeit at a much lower price.

Hilarious delusional because you and the other bag holders are the only one’s who think they have anything in hand. It’s what you don’t know that will bite you.

The market is trying to tell you something but you have polymer blinders on.

#scam
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prototype_101 prototype_101 2 days ago
Ha!! Too funny!!

It's only a problem for the 20 MILLION Shorts to Cover as Yves starts inking the Tier 1 deals!!

LWLG has IN HAND today what has been sought after for 40+ years with combined industry, DOD, DARPA, etc spending in the BILLIONS $$
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tedpeele tedpeele 2 days ago
Would not be a surprise - I'm surprised a phony youtube pump hasn't already happened. Maybe that's because Yves is more honest?

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