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Trump signed the last executive order today for getting rid of DEI in schools.  For those that worship him as a god that includes people native to Hawaii.  They are included on this DEI list.  Enjoy praising your savior while he list you below anyone else.   It's disgusting, yet some that are on that list don't even care.  Amazing.   I truly don't understand.  Don't you have any honor in your family history when someone is telling you that you are less ?   Just curious.  

toyota ? japan ionq for the win patience 
now the commentary as soon as this depressed stock action changes ionq is going to take off 

Dumbest thing I've heard in a week, last dumbest thing was another poster before that.  🙄.   He's busy making babies, firing people. Realizing he shouldn't of fired them and hiring them back.  Over and over and over again.   The Tesla clown 🤡 truck FULL of clowns.   

how to help pay for the mobility network? allow other countries/companies to use their services? wags.

MONET Technologies Inc.: This is the Japanese mobility services joint venture established by SoftBank Corp. and Toyota Motor Corporation (and later joined by other Japanese automakers).  
Origin of the Name: Official announcements from SoftBank and Toyota state that the name "MONET" is derived from the words "MObility NETwork". It was chosen to reflect the company's mission to build a network for safer and more comfortable mobility services.  

and segue with softbank and supercomputer for japan. with nvidia. then add their support for japan quantum computing work. hybrid she blow. wags.

major collaboration for DOD and D Wave Money to be made on D Wave

There’s the bounce off of 27.00. Boing!

Hell YALE! Mr Hathaway! Niccolo and Peter are on fire! Watch what they do next.

i hope ionq gets a cut of the proceeds from anything they invent/patent.

any wonder trump is changing the rules on government funding of r and d? he's looking for non-tax revenue......this is the mother lode, wags.

no more free money which then turns into undertaxed profits for their inventors who then go off and ignore the usa taxpayers contribution?

harvard is the worst. you patent or discover something while working for them, they take the lion's share for themselves. they all do. so, what's good for the goose is good for the gander..

Doc. I actually think he’d be a better Fed chairman. And then abolishes it. Like D O E

This is massive news! IONQ's growing eco system in full motion.

IonQ’s agreement with Toyota Tsusho marks a pivotal step in the company’s global expansion, unlocking commercial opportunities in Japan’s multi-billion quantum market

COLLEGE PARK, Md.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Apr. 23, 2025--IonQ, Inc. (NYSE: IONQ), a leader in the quantum computing and networking industries, today announced a pivotal flagship distributor partnership with Toyota Tsusho Corporation (Toyota Tsusho) to accelerate quantum computing in Japan. This milestone marks IonQ’s entrance into the Japanese market – reinforcing the company’s commitment to advancing quantum computing opportunities globally.

“Japan has long been at the forefront of technological innovation, and our collaboration with Toyota Tsusho Corporation provides more opportunities to bring our cutting-edge quantum solutions to a market that is primed for transformative advancements,” said Niccolo de Masi, President & CEO at IonQ. “We have already signed our first local deal through Toyota Tsusho’s customer network and look forward to continuing our work in the Japanese market.”

Toyota Tsusho is a member of Toyota Group with around $70 billion in annual revenue, bringing decades of experience in scaling businesses within Japan’s market and is backed by a diverse portfolio spanning industries from automotive to emerging technologies. According to McKinsey, by 2035 quantum computing represents a $1 to $2 trillion opportunity across industries with Japan as a major global player.

Toyota Tsusho was established in 1948 as the trading and business development arm of the Toyota Group and has made significant progress in the field of quantum computing in recent years. Leveraging its extensive customer network, the company will introduce IonQ’s cutting-edge quantum computing and networking technologies to a broad range of Japanese enterprises.

“We see the immense transformative value of quantum computing technologies for our customers across industries,” said Kazumi Mizukawa, the General Manager of Enterprise IT Department at Toyota Tsusho. “Our partnership with IonQ is a momentous step toward immediately realizing the commercial benefits of quantum solutions in Japan.”

Today’s announcement builds on IonQ’s landmark partnership with the University of Maryland and the State of Maryland to establish Maryland as the Capital of Quantum in the computing industry. Over the past year, IonQ has expanded its global presence by opening the United States’ first quantum computing manufacturing facility, unveiling its first quantum computer in Europe in partnership with QuantumBasel, signing a memorandum of understanding with AIST’s Global Research and Development Center for Business by Quantum-AI Technology (G-QuAT), and a memorandum of understanding with the city of Busan, South Korea to drive quantum transformation in Korea. IonQ’s partnership with Toyota Tsusho further underscores its commitment to advancing quantum technologies in the APAC region, complementing its current work with Hyundai Motors, Sungkyunkwan University and Seoul National University.

For more information about IonQ’s quantum computing solutions, please visit www.ionq.com.

About IonQ

IonQ, Inc. is a leader in the quantum computing and networking industries, delivering high-performance systems aimed at solving the world’s largest and most complex commercial and research use cases. IonQ’s current generation quantum computers, IonQ Forte and IonQ Forte Enterprise, are the latest in a line of cutting-edge systems, boasting 36 algorithmic qubits. The company’s innovative technology and rapid growth were recognized in Newsweek’s 2025 Excellence Index 1000, Forbes’ 2025 Most Successful Mid-Cap Companies list, and Built In’s 2025 100 Best Midsize Places to Work in Washington DC and Seattle, respectively. Available through all major cloud providers, IonQ is making quantum computing more accessible and impactful than ever before. Learn more at IonQ.com.

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elon for ceo of vcsy/ploinks?

gemini ai says,
to my question: does toyota's hydrogen power aspirations benefit from quantum computing capabilities?



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Yes, Toyota's hydrogen power aspirations stand to benefit significantly from quantum computing capabilities, and the company, through various divisions like Toyota Tsusho, Toyota Research Institute of North America (TRINA), and Toyota Central R&D Labs, is actively exploring these potential applications.

Here's how quantum computing could help and how Toyota is engaged:

Materials Science & Discovery (Fuel Cells & Storage):

Challenge: Developing more efficient, durable, and cost-effective materials is crucial for hydrogen fuel cells (especially reducing reliance on expensive catalysts like platinum) and for storing hydrogen effectively.  
Quantum Benefit: Quantum computers promise to simulate molecules and material interactions with much higher accuracy than classical computers. This could drastically accelerate the discovery and design of:
Novel Catalysts: Finding alternative materials for fuel cell electrodes that improve the oxygen reduction reaction (a key bottleneck) and reduce or eliminate platinum use.
Improved Membranes: Designing better proton-exchange membranes for fuel cells and electrolyzers (for hydrogen production).
Efficient Hydrogen Storage: Simulating and designing new materials that can store hydrogen more densely or under less extreme conditions (lower pressure/higher temperature).  
 
Toyota's Activity:
Toyota Tsusho is partnering with Quantinuum specifically exploring materials science applications using quantum computing.
TRINA is collaborating with Northwestern University on an AI-driven "data factory" explicitly aimed at discovering new materials for fuel cells and clean hydrogen production. They are also partnering with Xanadu to use quantum computing for materials simulations, including those relevant to energy technologies.  
Toyota Central R&D Labs identifies materials informatics and quantum computing as key research areas for accelerating materials development.  
Chemical Process Simulation & Optimization:

Challenge: Understanding and optimizing the complex electrochemical reactions inside fuel cells or the electrolysis process for green hydrogen production is computationally intensive.  
Quantum Benefit: Quantum simulation could provide deeper insights into reaction mechanisms, leading to optimized designs and operating conditions for greater efficiency and longevity. Quantum optimization algorithms could also potentially find better ways to manage these processes.  
Toyota's Activity: While specific project details linking quantum simulation directly to their hydrogen production aren't widely published, the work in materials science (which underpins these processes) and general optimization suggests this is a relevant area.
Optimization (Infrastructure & Logistics):

Challenge: Efficiently deploying hydrogen refueling infrastructure, managing hydrogen transport logistics, and optimizing the overall energy system are complex large-scale problems.  
Quantum Benefit: Quantum optimization algorithms (including quantum-inspired methods running on classical hardware, which Toyota has explored) are well-suited for tackling such complex logistical and network optimization challenges.
Toyota's Activity:
Toyota Tsusho's work with Quantinuum includes logistics optimization.
Toyota's early work with D-Wave and collaboration with Jij Inc. using Azure Quantum focused on traffic signal optimization, demonstrating their interest in using advanced computational techniques for complex, system-level optimization problems relevant to mobility and logistics.  
Toyota Central R&D Labs mentions solving large-scale optimization problems like traffic flow control as a potential application for quantum computers.
In Conclusion:

Quantum computing offers powerful tools that directly address some of the most significant scientific and logistical hurdles in making hydrogen power widespread and cost-effective. Toyota, recognizing this potential, is actively engaged through partnerships and internal research (especially via Toyota Tsusho and TRINA) in exploring how quantum computing can accelerate materials discovery, improve process efficiency, and solve complex optimization problems related to its hydrogen strategy. While widespread application is still likely some years away as quantum hardware matures, Toyota is positioning itself to leverage these advanced computational capabilities.  


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things beneficial , trumps tariffs negotiations completed, interest rates decline to allow capex investment, wars put aside, rebuilding financing in place, distribution of building materials in equitable manner, fair trade from big to little and vice versa, ip is not free or obtained by theft or by world 'order to do so' ; loan terms are realistic for the country involved. .
ownership is recognized and compensated.
outlaws are punished in the form of trade or more elemental punishment as befits the crime . ?

if it goes opex, the banks and lending institutions can't play robber barons.

ge financial found something each country could sell to others to buy jets.... hopefully, the same happens again.

this time we have quantum/hpc ai to help determine such wealth.

inside the usa ploinks would therefore be stargate project? v's 13% partners group?

msft and 744 licensees including lg/samsung/hp/interwoven then divide up the rest of the world for ploinks coverage with vcsy?
they all use the shared msft fabric for shared data and separate data for their private data allowing personalized analysis? waags.
so, would vcsy be majority owner with different 13% owners globally? only difference is usa ploinks has additional component for vcsy stockholders in addition to their shareholding in vcsy?
that would perhaps make everyone ok with wade settlement.?

kona, non usa ploinks? msft to become major tenant of emirates communications company hyper compute center valued at 500 million dollars. they say emirates aspires to be major could ai player outside of usa.

Now we just need Elon to replace Powell! Talk about a fart in church! There would be a bunch of panties in a bunch on that news. But leave it to the Donald to toss that hand grenade into the room. Lol

Doc. I was thinking the same thing the second I saw that. Portuno. Also the word “semantics “ popped out at me. Another port favorite. If u remember? Kinda creepy actually. But “ A Laughing Place “ was a great education! Mirror was a paid plant imo. To run interference. So it’s looking like our IonQ and Vcsy may join hands and both pay off handsomely. And it looks like your 8 will be in there too. The trifecta!

kona...Port server? ironic/serendipity? or the path/course that was planned /divined? that port server and Portuno come to mind.

a lot of networking, dynamic routing, authentication needed to pull it off. security as well.

sbv security on the semiconductor part of the super/semiconductor ?

why didn't nvda and avgo go to the stargate project pr with softbank, oracle, openai, and trump?

msft/google/amazon/ibm/sap/apple not in attendance? maybe they've got their own hpc/quantum ips?

HELL YALE!

Woops

Expansion Ideas
   •   Add real photodetector or NV-diamond sensor as the Q input
   •   Integrate OpenCV on Pi to verify actuator response
   •   Add FPGA-to-FPGA communication for swarm metasurface control

Great! Let’s lay out a hardware prototype roadmap for a Ploinks-powered, quantum-aware, reconfigurable metasurface node using:
   •   Raspberry Pi (edge compute / Ploinks node)
   •   FPGA dev board (metasurface control logic)
   •   Meta-actuator (physically tunable surface component)

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Prototype Stack Breakdown

1. Raspberry Pi (Ploinks Node)

Role:
   •   Quantum sensor signal acquisition (via GPIO or UART)
   •   Control command processing
   •   Mesh networking (via Ploinks / ZeroTier / custom mesh stack)
   •   Secure edge compute (AI inference, logging, peer sync)

Hardware:
   •   Raspberry Pi 4 or Pi Zero 2 W
   •   WiFi or LoRa module for mesh
   •   SD card w/ Raspbian Lite + Python

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2. FPGA Dev Board

Role:
   •   Convert sensor input into reconfiguration signals
   •   Generate PWM/analog signals for metamaterial control
   •   Real-time logic handling with low latency

Suggested Boards:
   •   Lattice iCE40UP5K (TinyFPGA BX / iCEBreaker)
   •   Digilent Cmod A7 (Xilinx Artix-7)
   •   DE0-Nano (Intel/Altera Cyclone IV)

Programming Tools:
   •   Verilog/VHDL or open toolchains (Yosys, nextpnr)
   •   Serial interface to Pi (UART/SPI)

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3. Meta-Actuator (Physical Tuning)

Role:
   •   Simulate a tunable metamaterial (start simple)
   •   Change reflectivity or other EM response based on signal

Options:
   •   MEMS mirror or liquid crystal display patch (optical tuning)
   •   Thermochromic film (heat-modulated material)
   •   Graphene-on-PET with voltage bias tuning (advanced)
   •   For MVP: Use PWM-controlled servo motors to move surface tiles or foil sheets

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System Wiring Overview

Ploinks-powered, quantum-aware, reconfigurable metasurface

Let’s sketch the architecture and function of a Ploinks-powered, quantum-aware, reconfigurable metasurface:

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System Overview

Goal: A distributed, intelligent surface that dynamically reacts to quantum and classical inputs, driven by mobile mini-servers (Ploinks), and capable of reconfiguring its EM/optical response for sensing, computation, or communication.

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System Components

1. Quantum-Aware Sensor Layer
   •   Tech: Quantum dots (QDs), nitrogen-vacancy (NV) centers, or superconducting sensors.
   •   Role: Detect local quantum states (spin, entanglement, tunneling, energy levels).
   •   Output: Analog/digital signal reflecting quantum events.

2. Metamaterial Layer (Reconfigurable Medium)
   •   Tech: Programmable metasurfaces made of materials like graphene, phase-change alloys, or MEMS-tuned resonators.
   •   Control Modes:
      •   Voltage-controlled tunability
      •   Optical beam modulation
      •   Mechanical micro-actuation
   •   Role: Alter EM properties—permittivity, permeability, chirality, etc.—in real-time.

3. FPGA/Neuromorphic Core
   •   Tech: FPGA (Xilinx, Lattice, Intel), maybe embedded neuromorphic chips (Loihi or custom).
   •   Role:
      •   Convert sensor signals to control signals
      •   Run adaptive machine learning models
      •   Synchronize metamaterial response

4. Ploinks Mini-Server
   •   Tech: Lightweight, mobile peer-to-peer computing node with trusted execution and mesh networking.
   •   Role:
      •   Act as the decentralized brain for each surface segment
      •   Communicate state changes across the mesh
      •   Handle edge processing and secure data routing

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Functional Flow


t Sensor]
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[Signal Processing via FPGA]
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[Reconfiguration Command]
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[Intelligent Metasurface Morphs]
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[Desired Function: cloak, beamform, encrypt, reflect, absorb, compute]
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[Ploinks node syncs & shares state]


Potential Use Cases
   •   Quantum Communication Gateways: Real-time EM modulation based on quantum key detection.
   •   Energy Manipulation Surfaces: EM reconfiguration based on ambient fermionic flux.
   •   Biofoundry Interfaces: Surfaces that change biophysical properties (pH, impedance) based on quantum-biological sensing.
   •   Stealth & Sensing Fusion: Cloak + detect + compute in one unified skin.

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Next Steps
1. Define material stack & fabrication method (e.g., CVD-grown graphene + printed QDs).
2. Simulate FPGA control matrix (logic needed to interpret quantum data and tune surfaces).
3. Deploy Ploinks testbed for edge signal fusion and network intelligence.
4. Prototype localized metasurface cell, then scale via mesh.

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Want help prototyping a basic node in this system or simulating part of the quantum-metasurface interaction?

You’re touching on a deep and wild stack—let’s break it down and explore how these elements could theoretically interconnect in a next-gen computational-physical system:

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1. Fermion to Quantum Dot Sensor
   •   Fermions (like electrons) are the foundation of matter and quantum behavior.
   •   Quantum dots can trap single electrons or excitons (electron-hole pairs), making them ideal sensors for detecting fermionic behavior (e.g., spin, energy states, tunneling).
   •   Application: Quantum dot sensors can measure quantum fluctuations, charge, or spin—turning quantum behavior into readable classical signals.

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2. Quantum Dot Sensor to Intelligent Metamaterial
   •   Quantum dot sensors can feed live quantum state data into a control system.
   •   Intelligent metamaterials are reconfigurable structures that change properties (like EM response) in real time based on input.
   •   Bridge: A quantum dot sensor’s output can tune the electromagnetic response of a metamaterial, allowing quantum phenomena to influence macroscopic EM wave behavior.
   •   Think: Quantum-controlled invisibility cloaks, tunable lenses, or entanglement-driven antenna arrays.

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3. Intelligent Metamaterial to FPGA
   •   FPGAs (Field-Programmable Gate Arrays) can act as the real-time interface to:
      •   Read sensor input
      •   Adjust metamaterial configurations dynamically
      •   Run adaptive algorithms (e.g., ML, DSP)
   •   Metamaterials become programmable in hardware—not just software—with FPGA logic controlling them via electro-optic/mechanical elements.

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4. FPGA to E = mc²?

This is symbolic, but let’s interpret:
   •   E = mc² = Mass-energy equivalence: the bridge between matter and energy.
   •   An FPGA-controlled quantum system might simulate, emulate, or even harness physical interactions where mass-energy relationships are observable or modulated:
      •   Quantum computing circuits mimicking physical laws
      •   Reconfigurable processors simulating relativistic effects
      •   Metamaterials managing radiation or energy-mass conversion systems (hypothetically)
   •   You’re essentially trying to digitally manipulate phenomena tied to the physical constants of the universe.

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Conceptual Flow Summary:
[Fermion]
? sensed by ?
[Quantum Dot Sensor]
? signal drives ?
[Intelligent Metamaterial]
? reconfigured by ?
[FPGA/Neuromorphic System]
? simulates or influences ?
[Physical Phenomena, e.g., E = mc²-level interactions]
Wild Use Case:

Imagine a Ploinks-powered, quantum-aware, reconfigurable metasurface that:
   •   Detects particle spin in the environment (fermionic activity)
   •   Alters its EM properties to steer or reflect energy differently
   •   Is governed by an FPGA that encodes relativistic simulation models (or even quantum gravity behaviors)
   •   And is embedded in a P2P biofoundry or secure communication mesh.

Would you like to sketch out a prototype flow or deep-dive into one of those links in the chain?

Port server for heterogeneous hardware
Patent number: 12112235
Abstract: Systems and techniques are provided for a port server for heterogeneous hardware. A port server may include computing devices that may include multiple connection types. Storage devices may be connected to the computing devices. The computing devices may receive a communication from an external computing device intended for a hardware device of a heterogenous system over one of the connection types. The communication may be sent to the hardware device of the heterogenous system using one of the connection types. A response may be received from the hardware device of the heterogenous system over the connection type used to send the communication to the hardware device. The response from the hardware device of the heterogenous system may be sent to the external computing device over the connection type over which the communication was received from the external computing device.
Type: Grant
Filed: May 28, 2021
Date of Patent: October 8, 2024
Assignee: IonQ Inc.
Inventors: Stewart Allen, Aleksey Blinov, Felix Tripier

metal and add electron, proton, neutron? what might be the effect? i guess i 'll ask gemini or chatgpt.

"Copper (Cu):

Yes, copper is found in cancer cells and is biologically significant. Copper is an essential trace element vital for the function of many enzymes in normal human cells.  
Altered Levels in Cancer: Numerous studies have shown that copper levels are often elevated in various types of cancer cells and tumors, as well as in the blood serum of cancer patients, compared to healthy cells and individuals.  
Role in Cancer Progression: Cancer cells appear to hijack copper metabolism to support their rapid growth and spread. Copper is known to be crucial for:
Angiogenesis: The formation of new blood vessels, which tumors need to grow and metastasize. Copper-dependent factors like VEGF are involved.  
Cell Proliferation: Supporting the rapid division of cancer cells.  
Metastasis: Helping cancer cells invade surrounding tissues and spread to distant sites.  
 
Therapeutic Target: Because of its importance to cancer cells, researchers are actively investigating strategies to target copper metabolism as a potential cancer treatment, for example, using drugs that bind to copper (chelators) to starve tumors.  
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kona, fermion to quantum dot sensor to...............intelligent metamaterial? fpga to e=mc2?

with teleportation of the data which includes the e?

photonic manipulation patents of ionq?
"Bidirectional interactions between metamaterials and artificial intelligence have recently attracted interest, leading to the proliferation of intelligent metamaterials and metamaterials intelligence34. These interactions enable deep learning to streamline photonic design, foster independent working manner, and unearth latent physics for intelligent metamaterials5."

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Smart man . all this mkt b s will all clear up soon. China will cave or their people will revolt on their leaders. Watch. A lot of them are hurting already. If their largest buyer US goes elsewhere , they’re toast.

i added alot just now 

Who the hell is selling , and why? R U Nuts?

majorana fermion of alu and indium arsenide.....superconductor and semiconductor......sbv semiconductor security!

msft and v ip 744 family at least.

quantum entanglement and quantum teleportation of data.

fermion can be neutron, proton, electron.... spins behavior of same to quantum dot and data storage. sampling or data read?

microsoft/744 and vip and sbv?

photonic bonding of alu/indium arsenide? edison welding institute?

As of now, there is no publicly available information indicating a direct collaboration between ID Quantique and Ploinks. ID Quantique, a leader in quantum-safe cryptography and quantum sensing, has been involved in various partnerships to advance quantum technologies. Notably, in February 2025, IonQ announced its acquisition of ID Quantique, aiming to bolster its position in the global quantum networking market by adding nearly 300 quantum networking patents to its portfolio . This acquisition also involved a strategic partnership with SK Telecom, reflecting a concerted effort to accelerate the adoption of quantum-safe security solutions . ? ? ?

While Ploinks focuses on secure personal communication platforms, there is no evidence of a partnership or integration between Ploinks and ID Quantique in the available sources. However, given the evolving landscape of quantum technologies and cybersecurity, future collaborations between companies like Ploinks and ID Quantique remain a possibility.

Yes, Sawblade Ventures has been involved in initiatives related to Ploinks. In 2018, Vertical Computer Systems, Inc. (VCSY), the developer of Ploinks®, entered into a license agreement with Sawblade Ventures. This agreement granted VCSY a worldwide non-exclusive license to market, distribute, and sub-license Sawblade’s technology in the Internet of Things (IoT) market. ? ? ?

The collaboration aimed to integrate Ploinks’ secure personal communication platform with Sawblade’s patented methods for enhancing cybersecurity in microelectronics. Sawblade’s technology includes electronic design automation (EDA) tools and custom synthesizable IP, designed to add flexible, distributed, and reconfigurable logic into semiconductor designs. ? ?

This partnership suggests that Sawblade Ventures contributed its expertise in semiconductor security to complement Ploinks’ secure communication solutions. However, specific details about ongoing collaborations or integrations involving ID Quantique were not found in the available information. ?

Alright—let’s design a secure edge node layout using Ploinks mini servers, combining:
   •   Quantum-safe communication (QKD / teleportation-aware)
   •   Nested encryption
   •   Ploinks’ permissioned peer-to-peer model
   •   Photonic intrusion detection
   •   Application-layer defense for decentralized compute (e.g., biofoundry, DNA synthesis, etc.)

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Secure Quantum-Classical Edge Node Architecture (Ploinks-Powered)

1. Core Hardware Layer (Mini Server Node)
   •   Device: Ploinks mini server (ARM-based or x86-based SoC)
   •   Trusted Execution Environment (TEE): Hardware enclave (e.g., ARM TrustZone, AMD SEV, or Intel SGX)
   •   Quantum I/O (Optional): Integrated photonic interface or entanglement receiver (fiber or free-space)

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2. Network Stack

a. Physical Layer
   •   Quantum Channel:
      •   For entangled pair reception or QKD key exchange.
      •   Monitored for fidelity degradation (entanglement checking) or error-rate (BB84-style alerting).
   •   Classical Channel:
      •   Encrypted with post-quantum crypto (e.g., CRYSTALS-Kyber or NTRU).
      •   Secondary encryption: TLS 1.3 or lattice-wrapped VPN tunnel.

b. Tamper Detection
   •   Quantum: Bell test / QBER thresholds alert to intrusion.
   •   Physical: Mini-server sealed with tamper-evident mechanisms (resin, active mesh).
   •   OS-level: Runtime attestation via remote TPM/TEE check-in.

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3. Encryption Stack

Layered Encryption Scheme
   •   Layer 1 (Transport): TLS 1.3 with PQC handshake
   •   Layer 2 (Application): End-to-end lattice encryption for payloads
   •   Layer 3 (Metadata): Homomorphic / zero-knowledge wrapping for sensitive metadata (e.g., location, timestamp)

Nested encryption is useful if Ploinks nodes operate in partially trusted mesh environments or cross-host zones (e.g., federated research sites).

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4. Ploinks Mesh/Permissioning
   •   Permissioned P2P Overlay:
      •   Peers must authenticate via identity proof (e.g., zk-SNARK-backed credentials).
      •   Gossip layer or DHT routing protected with quantum-hardened signatures (SPHINCS+, XMSS, etc.)
   •   Node Bootstrap:
      •   Secure join via QR-verification or optical handshake.
      •   Public keys registered with a smart contract ledger (optional) for tamper-proof peer history.

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5. Quantum Intrusion Detection
   •   Integrated with the node’s control software:
      •   Runs fidelity/error checks on incoming entanglement or photon-based QKD streams.
      •   Sends automatic quarantine signal to surrounding nodes if manipulation suspected.
      •   Example: Ploinks mesh dynamically routes around suspect nodes.

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6. App Layer: Use Case (e.g., Biofoundry)
   •   DNA sequence synthesis requests:
      •   Authenticated via DID (Decentralized Identity).
      •   Encoded via homomorphic encryption for remote processing.
   •   Processing Node:
      •   Uses quantum-assisted simulation (optional IonQ hybrid backend).
      •   Data never decrypted outside TEE.
   •   Output:
      •   Encrypted synthetic blueprint or chemical recipe, stored P2P and replicated via content-based addressing.

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7. Node Monitoring & Alerts
   •   Logging & Metrics:
      •   Encrypted log streams (e.g., Loki + Promtail) sent to secure collectors.
   •   Quantum alerts:
      •   Fidelity drops or suspicious photonic behavior triggers consensus-wide “tampering suspected” flags.
   •   Mesh-level Watchdog:
      •   Periodic integrity checks, P2P validation, node gossip consensus on availability and behavior.

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Optional Enhancements
   •   Decentralized Governance Layer:
      •   Using quadratic voting or stake-based policy enforcement in mesh.
   •   Quantum Entropy Injection:
      •   Real-time quantum noise feeds used to seed randomness in the node, enhancing key generation.

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Next Steps (if you’re building PoC):
   •   Identify hardware for photonic/QKD support (e.g., ID Quantique, QNu Labs, Xanadu).
   •   Choose post-quantum libraries (e.g., liboqs, Open Quantum Safe).
   •   Integrate Ploinks SDK into base image for mini-server with mesh bootstrap tools.
   •   Simulate QKD layer or error-checking routines if no real quantum gear yet.

1. Do nation-state cyber criminals attack the network or the data center?

Short answer: Both—depending on their objective.

Details:
   •   Network-level attacks target communication infrastructure: fiber lines, routers, switches, satellites, etc. These aim to intercept, reroute, or manipulate data in motion (e.g., MITM attacks, BGP hijacking).
   •   Data center-level attacks go after stored data, compute resources, or internal systems. They try to compromise servers, firmware, virtualization layers, or embedded systems.
   •   Nation-states often combine both, using advanced persistent threats (APTs) that move laterally across systems to stay undetected for years.

Modern focus:
   •   More recently, emphasis has shifted toward supply chain and firmware-level compromise, and even hardware implants (like the alleged chip-in-motherboard cases).
   •   Air-gapped data centers can still be targeted through side-channel attacks (e.g., EM leakage, thermals, acoustics).

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2. Can you encrypt the encrypted?

Yes, this is known as encryption layering or nested encryption.

Example:
   •   First layer: TLS (transport-level)
   •   Second layer: Application-layer encryption (e.g., PGP or lattice-based crypto)
   •   Third layer: Quantum-safe or post-quantum crypto

Why do it?
   •   Defense in depth.
   •   If one layer is compromised (say RSA breaks), the others still provide protection.
   •   Useful for mixed-trust environments or if you’re uncertain about the strength of a single crypto suite.

Caveat:
   •   Over-encryption doesn’t always equate to better security if not implemented cleanly (latency, key management, performance tradeoffs).

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3. If they hack the photonic channel, does it easily alert to manipulation or monitoring?

Yes—very likely. This is one of the killer features of quantum channels.

Why?
   •   Quantum no-cloning theorem: You cannot copy quantum information without altering it.
   •   Measurement disturbs the system: Any eavesdropper (Eve) who tries to observe the photonic qubits will cause detectable errors.

In quantum key distribution (QKD):
   •   Alice and Bob compare a sample of their key over a classical channel.
   •   If the error rate is above a threshold, they know someone tampered with the photons.
   •   This is effectively built-in intrusion detection at the physics layer.

In teleportation or entanglement-based systems:
   •   Manipulation of the entangled state will degrade fidelity.
   •   You can measure this as Bell inequality violations or other entanglement metrics.
   •   So yes, manipulation becomes immediately apparent.

Quantum teleportation doesn’t transmit data in the classical sense—rather, it transmits quantum states using entanglement and classical communication. That said, quantum teleportation does inherently provide a form of security, though it’s quite different from traditional security models like FIPS or FO (Full Observable) data security. Here’s how it compares in terms of tampering detection and alerting:

Quantum Teleportation & Security:
1. Tampering Detection (Yes):
      •   Any attempt to measure or intercept the quantum state before teleportation destroys the entanglement.
      •   This disturbance is detectable, effectively alerting participants that something is wrong—similar to quantum key distribution (QKD).
      •   So yes, quantum teleportation can detect tampering attempts, though not in a classical “alert/log” sense—more like a failure of teleportation fidelity.
2. No Cloning (Inherent Security):
      •   You can’t copy a quantum state due to the no-cloning theorem, which prevents duplication.
      •   This ensures data confidentiality during teleportation.
3. Classical Channel Vulnerability:
      •   Teleportation still requires classical communication (e.g., sending measurement results).
      •   That classical channel needs traditional cryptographic protection (e.g., TLS, post-quantum crypto) for full security.
4. No Passive Eavesdropping:
      •   Unlike classical channels where someone can silently listen, any interception of quantum information disrupts it, making passive snooping impossible.

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Comparison with FO (Full Observable) Data Security:
   •   FO systems may have built-in logging, auditing, and intrusion detection systems.
   •   Quantum teleportation doesn’t log or audit, but it inherently fails or shows fidelity degradation if tampered with.
   •   For alerts, you’d need to add classical monitoring infrastructure around the teleportation setup to get similar visibility.

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Bottom Line:

Quantum teleportation does provide strong tamper-evidence and security, even beyond FO in some ways (due to physical laws). But for full visibility (alerting, logging), you’d still need to integrate it with classical security systems.

do the nation state cyber criminals attack the network or the data center? can you encrypt the encrypted?if they hack the photonic channel does it easily alert to manipulation/monitoring attempt? is the quantum teleporation frequency provided the same security as the fo data at least to alerting attempts to mess with it?

noko is on the border. i wonder if soko has more advanced quantum networking than we've been told about?

Steady, significant and increasing growth. All really good signs. Staffing up for more research, growth and customer support.

All trending in the right direction.

Doc. Now what we have here. Is a failure to communicate. I know SK Telcom and Intellian and I D Quantique want to communicate along with darpa and AFRL etc But they got to get their quantum minds right. Think beyond heterogenous. Get your mind right. I’m shakin it boss. I’m shakin it.
Quantum networks. No longer a string and a bush.
Life in the fast lane
Everything. All the time.
Ahaaaaa.

Keep your 👁️ on IonQ

I dont recall blaming anything on biden. Everyone knows he wasnt running the country.

And yes, the current market conditions, chaos etc., some of it is on Trump.

The two wars were going on before he took office, and they impact the markets as well.

I place blame where it belongs, not according to party lines etc. Both sides enact some good and some bad policies.

Lets see where the markets are in 2 years. It will either be accolades and genius status, or market destruction and consequences for the party in power.

2 years from now you'll still be blaming things on Biden.  🙄.   The stock market is the way it is because of trump.  Fact. 

That is actually a really good point! Facts like that dont lie and cant be manipulated.

JFYI. As of December 31, 2024, IonQ employed 407 individuals, reflecting a 25.62% increase from the previous year . This growth continues a trend observed over recent years: ?
   •   2023: 324 employees
   •   2022: 202 employees
   •   2021: 97 employees
   •   2020: 66 employees ? ? ?

This consistent expansion underscores IonQ’s rapid development within the quantum computing sector. ?

And Tempo could step into the spotlight anytime now. This is all happening like really Presto now . 😉 🫣🤫

Doc. Good read. Mahalo. Think back to our last contract with the U S Air Force Research Laboratory. 54.5 mil$ was it? Or was it the first contract for 9 mil $ ? To study enhancing classical communications with quantum technology. Enhancing / integrating . Same thing only different. lol. A secure hybrid communication system if u will. This is all happening a lot faster than most would think. The current quantum computers turned inward are solving all kinds of problems at light speed now. Not 10 years from now. And I’m thinking S K T is also looking at the heterogeneous angle.
Quantum-Enhanced Mobile Devices: In 2020, SKT launched the "Galaxy A Quantum," the world's first 5G smartphone equipped with a Quantum Random Number Generator (QRNG) chip (developed with ID Quantique) for enhanced security in mobile banking apps and other services.
“We had it in there your Honor, but it wasn’t turned on “ comes to mind.
A whole lot of shakin going on in S K. And as you can see Japan is not going to sit on their hands while SK upstages them with secure quantum communications in their country.

Peter is right. Billions of $ in secure quantum networks out there right now and Peter and Niccolo are on it. Acquisitions of Qubitekk and I D Quantique and working with A N S Y S , NKT Photonics , Astra Zeneca , AFRL, DARPA. , Intellian, General Dynamics etc. Hard to keep up lately. Ionq is on it! Keep your 👁️ on IonQ.

It didnt strike you as odd that Powell lowered interest rates right before the election? He did that to juice the economy to help the administration at that time. I predicted that would happen over a year in advance.

He also kept rates too low, for too long. That type of reckless activity is what caused the inflation to begin with.

Perhaps it is the resistance (Powell and others) who will trigger a recession.

You ask how many bankruptcies has Trump had? The answer is none. He has never filed for personal bankruptcy. He has been involved in many business ventures, in a very successful 60 year career. During that time frame, six companies that he owned or had an interest in filed for bankruptcy protection, under the law. It's a legal business decision.

Europe won't deal with China, as China is already eating their lunch. The EU is afraid of China and Russia, and needs US protection. Absent US protection, Russia would already have rolled through most of Europe.

No doubt there are risks associated with the tariff negotiations. But do you believe its fair that foreign countries can sell their goods in an open US market, and we cant sell our goods in those countries, because they have tariffs (taxes) on our merchandise, making it too expensive.

Have you ever traveled internationally? Go to Germany and you will see Mercedes everywhere, like they are Fords or Chevrolets, in the US. Mercedes is even used as taxis, in Germany. And its the same deal in other countries as well. You dont see American cars in Europe, Japan or Latin America.

The tariffs are being used as a negotiating tool. In a short time, these other countries will come to the table and cut deals, lowering or removing their tariffs on American goods. That will enrich our country through free and FAIR TRADE.

So if these tariff deals work out and the economy starts booming will you admit you were wrong?

We don't have to agree on everything or anything, as we are entitled to our opinions.

But I am glad to see that you were successful in selling IONQ high and buying back in low, and thereby tripling your share count. That is the smart play here, with all of the volatility.

The tariffs and uncertainty have certainly taken their toll on IONQ, and the markets in general.

Good luck!

Powell opened his mouth again ?!  He's 20 times smarter than the orange 🍊 man.   The sad thing is, if wigman can get rid of him he'll hire someone that will lower interest rates just because he wants it.   How many bankruptcies has trump had.  He'll throw us into a recession that will take a generation, yes.  20 years to recover from.  He's already isolated us from the world.  What did he say? 150 something countries are begging him to reconsider but refuses to name them.   🙄.  If Europe decides to deal with china, we are screwed.  The idiot has burned all bridges.   By the way, I've tripled my shares from selling high and buying low.   I think Kona was cussing me for doing it.  I've got the middle finger up for you brother.  👍