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Fannie Mae (QB)

Fannie Mae (QB) (FNMAG)

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Current Price
7.78
Bid
7.75
Ask
7.78
Volume
1,000
7.75 Day's Range 7.78
0.00 52 Week Range 0.00
Market Cap
Previous Close
7.75
Open
7.75
Last Trade
300
@
7.78
Last Trade Time
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Financial Volume
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VWAP
7.76
Average Volume (3m)
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Shares Outstanding
1,158,087,567
Dividend Yield
-
PE Ratio
565.38
Earnings Per Share (EPS)
-
Revenue
26.87B
Net Profit
3M

About Fannie Mae (QB)

Fannie Mae is a government-sponsored enterprise that was chartered by Congress in 1938 to support liquidity, stability and affordability in the secondary mortgage market, where existing mortgage-related assets are purchased and sold. Fannie Mae is a government-sponsored enterprise that was chartered by Congress in 1938 to support liquidity, stability and affordability in the secondary mortgage market, where existing mortgage-related assets are purchased and sold.

Sector
Mortgage Bankers & Loan Corr
Industry
Mortgage Bankers & Loan Corr
Headquarters
Washington, District Of Columbia, USA
Founded
1970
Fannie Mae (QB) is listed in the Mortgage Bankers & Loan Corr sector of the OTCMarkets with ticker FNMAG. The last closing price for Fannie Mae (QB) was $7.75. Over the last year, Fannie Mae (QB) shares have traded in a share price range of $ 0.00 to $ 0.00.

Fannie Mae (QB) currently has 1,158,087,567 shares outstanding. The market capitalization of Fannie Mae (QB) is $8.98 billion. Fannie Mae (QB) has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 565.38.

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FNMAG Discussion

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Rodney5 Rodney5 13 minutes ago
fair deal?? I don't think it's a fair deal at all.

Published October 9, 2023

FINANCIAL SERVICES
Committee

Committee Members
118th CONGRESS

The purpose of this letter is to bring attention to the Committee violations by the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) violating of the Charter Act, and the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness act of 1992 (FHEFSSA); Both as amended by the HOUSING AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY ACT OF 2008, (HERA). The Charter Acts are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's enabling statutes. FHEFSSA and HERA are regulatory statutes, governing the companies' regulators. All are laws passed by Congress.

The conservatorship of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac has continued for over 15 years. I am not sure if Committee Members understand the history of the takeover of the companies and pray the Committee will of your clemency hear me in a few words.

Before the take down of the companies Treasury Secretary Paulson was unaware that the FHFA Regulator had sent both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac letters saying the companies were safe and sound and exceeded their regulatory capital requirements. Paulson told FHFA Director Lockhart that he had to change his agency’s posture on the two companies, and FHFA did exactly that. FHFA sent each company an extremely harsh mid-year review letter, and two days later, Paulson, Lockhart and Fed chairman Bernanke met with the companies’ CEO's and directors to tell them they had no choice but to agree to conservatorship.

When Paulson met with the directors of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to inform them of his intent to take over their companies, neither entity met any of the twelve conditions for conservatorship spelled out in the newly passed HERA legislation. Paulson since has admitted he took the companies over by threat.

HOUSING AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY ACT OF 2008 Page 2734 Twelve Conditions
APPOINTMENT OF THE AGENCY AS CONSERVATOR OR RECEIVER
Link: https://www.congress.gov/110/plaws/publ289/PLAW-110publ289.pdf

The FHFA freely admitted the companies were adequately capitalized.

SECOND QUARTER CAPITAL RESULTS

Minimum Capital
Fannie Mae’s FHFA-directed capital requirement on June 30, 2008 was $37.5 billion and its statutory minimum capital requirement was $32.6 billion. Fannie Mae’s core capital of $47.0 billion exceeded the FHFA-directed capital requirement by $9.4 billion.

Freddie Mac’s FHFA-directed capital requirement on June 30, 2008 was $34.5 billion and its statutory minimum capital requirement was $28.7 billion. Freddie Mac’s core capital of $37.1 billion exceeded the FHFA-directed minimum capital requirement by $2.7 billion.

Link: https://www.fhfa.gov/Media/PublicAffairs/Pages/FHFA-Announces-Suspension-of-Capital-Classifications-During-Conservatorship-and-Discloses-Minimum-and-RiskBased-Cap.aspx#:~:text=During%20the%20conservatorship%2C%20FHFA%20will%20not%20issue%20a,submit%20capital%20reports%20to%20FHFA%20during%20the%20conservatorship.

The FHFA forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into a contract with the United States Treasury by Senior Preferred Stock. The Senior Preferred Stock Purchase Agreement is not a law: The SPSPA is an illegal contract between Treasury and FHFA as conservator of the two companies. The Charter Act, FHEFSSA and HERA passed by Congress is the supreme law of the land that governs the two companies.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's regulatory guidelines would have prohibited the companies form paying dividends to the Treasury while severely under-capitalized, but the FHFA suspended those guidelines because the regulator wanted the companies to have to draw more senior preferred stock from the Treasury to pay the annual dividends in cash, ballooning their outstanding senior preferred stock and increase their required annual dividends. FHFA and its Director are executive branch entities and can not make changes to federal laws. Only Congress can change the law. Neither the Charter Act nor did HERA authorize the Treasury to charge a commitment fee.

When Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were taken over by the FHFA no emergency existed and the FHFA had no authority granted by Congress to take over the companies, no authority written in the Charter Act that gave the FHFA right to take down the companies.

Charter Act: SUBSECTION (g) TEMPORARY AUTHORITY OF TREASURY TO PURCHASE OBLIGATIONS AND SECURITIES; CONDITIONS.— EMERGENCY DETERMINATION REQUIRED. Page 16

Under this subsection no emergency existed.

This leads to the question, who authorized the appropriation of taxpayer debt to provide the 200 billion commitment? Certainly not Congress. Treasury took it upon themselves and authorized a 200 billion commitment available in exchange for One Million Shares (1,000,000) with an initial liquidation preference of $1,000 per share. Shares of senior equity illegal and unconstitutional.

Page 5

Link: https://www.fhfa.gov/Conservatorship/Documents/Senior-Preferred-Stock-Agree/FNM/SPSPA-amends/FNM-SPSPA_09-07-2008.pdf

Charter act prohibits the commitment fees (Seniors, warrants, variable liquidation preference). More importantly the actions of Treasury to appropriate 200 billion in taxpayer debt, take non regulatory control of the companies through the SPSPA (require Treasury permission at least 10 separate times) and ownership of more than 50% of the companies requires them under the GAO act and the CFO act to consolidate the GSEs onto the nations balance sheet. The fact that that hasn't happened means the Treasury has violated the 14th amendment to the Constitution by repudiating the 5 trillion plus in debt the Treasury has acquired through their actions since 2008. Their actions have resulted in a takings of the entire enterprise value of the formerly private companies. These actions have necessarily turned the GSEs back into agencies of the executive branch as they were originally created. This is the definition of a major question and also a separation of powers problem since Congress did not authorize the actions Treasury took and continues to take.

In addition 'Deferred Tax Assets' the Treasury forced the companies to write down and record these non-cash expenses making the companies appear bankrupted. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were no where near bankrupted.

Mr. Howard wrote below,

Quote: “Between the time Fannie and Freddie were put into conservatorship and the end of 2011, well over $300 billion in non-cash accounting expenses were recorded on their income statements. These non-cash expenses, most of which were discretionary, eliminated all of the Companies’ capital and forced them, together, to take $187 billion from Treasury. But because accelerated or exaggerated expenses cause losses that are only temporary, Fannie’s and Freddie’s non-cash losses began to reverse themselves in 2012. Coupled with profits resulting from a rebounding housing market, the reversal of these losses enabled both Companies to report in August 2012 sufficient second quarter income to not only pay their dividends to Treasury but also retain a total of $3.9 billion in capital. As soon as it became apparent that a large percentage of the non-cash accounting losses booked during the previous four years was about to come back into income, Treasury and FHFA entered into the Third Amendment to the PSPA. The Third Amendment substituted for the fixed dividend payment a requirement that all future earnings—including reversals of accounting-related expenses incurred earlier—be remitted to Treasury. From the time the Third Amendment took effect through the end of 2014, Fannie and Freddie paid Treasury $170 billion, $133 billion more than they would have owed absent the Amendment.” End of Quote


The United States was not obligated after 1968 to back debt of Fannie Mae. The United States Taxpayers became obligated when the government took over the two companies.

Originally, Fannie Mae had an explicit guarantee from the United States government; if the entity got into financial trouble the government promised to bail it out. This changed in 1968. Fannie Mae became a private stockholder owned company. Fannie Mae securities received no actual explicit or implicit government guarantee. This is clearly stated in the securities themselves, and in many public communications issued by Fannie Mae.

Quote: “Although we are a corporation chartered by the U.S. Congress, the U.S. Government does not guarantee, directly or indirectly, our securities or other obligations. We are a stockholder-owned corporation, and our business is self-sustaining and funded exclusively with private capital. Our common stock is listed on the New York Stock Exchange and traded under the symbol “FNM.” Our debt securities are actively traded in the over-the-counter market.” End of Quote.

Information from: Fannie Mae form 10K Dec 31, 2007
part I, page 1, item 1.

https://www.fanniemae.com/sites/g/files/koqyhd191/files/migrated-files/resources/file/ir/pdf/quarterly-annual-results/2007/form10k_022708.pdf

Where is "maximize profits for taxpayers" written in the Charter Act? Specifically, in this provision entitled Fee Limitation of the United States:

Neither the Charter Act nor did HERA authorize the Treasury to charge a commitment fee on a line of credit to be paid by the Enterprise. The United States prohibition on assessment or collection of fee or charge to Fannie Mae, (section 304 Fee Limitation). Only Federal Reserve Banks are authorized to be reimbursed of fees, (section 309).

SEC. 304. SECONDARY MARKET OPERATION

Fee Limitation

Quote: “(f) PROHIBITION ON ASSESSMENT OR COLLECTION OF FEE OR CHARGE BY UNITED STATES.—Except for fees paid pursuant to section 309(g) of this Act and assessments pursuant to section 1316 of the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992, no fee or charge may be assessed or collected by the United States (including any executive department, agency, or independent establishment of the United States) on or with regard to the purchase, acquisition, sale, pledge, issuance, guarantee, or redemption of any mortgage, asset, obligation, trust certificate of beneficial interest, or other security by the corporation. No provision of this subsection shall affect the purchase of any obligation by the Secretary of the Treasury pursuant to subsection (c) of this section.” End of Quote. Page 16

Only Federal Reserve Banks are authorized to be reimbursed of fees, (section 309).

SEC. 309. GENERAL POWERS OF GOVERNMENT NATIONAL MORTGAGE ASSOCIATION AND FEDERAL NATIONAL MORTGAGE ASSOCIATION

Federal Reserve Banks to Act as Fiscal Agents (Fannie Mae and GNMA)

Quote: “(g) DEPOSITARIES, CUSTODIANS, AND FISCAL AGENTS.—The Federal Reserve banks are authorized and directed to act as depositaries, custodians, and fiscal agents for each of the bodies corporate named in section 302(a)(2), for its own account or as fiduciary, and such banks shall be reimbursed for such services in such manner as may be agreed upon; and each of such bodies corporate may itself act in such capacities, for its own account or as fiduciary, and for the account of others.” End of Quote. Page 29


Link:

FEDERAL NATIONAL MORTGAGE ASSOCIATION CHARTER ACT
As amended through July 25, 2019

link: https://www.fanniemae.com/sites/g/files/koqyhd191/files/migrated-files/resources/file/aboutus/pdf/fm-amended-charter.pdf

The Senior Preferred Stock, with a variable liquidation preference outlined in the SPSPA and its amendments and share certificates is a new product for the purposes of the Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 as amended by HERA.

Congress directed the Director of FHFA to apply the Administrative Procedures Act to the new products sold to Treasury. The FHFA did not follow the administrative procedures congress required in the plain language of the safety and soundness act.

The Director of FHFA as regulator violated the safety and soundness act and the administrative procedures act by not following the statutory duty to approve new products issued by the GSEs to Treasury for the purpose of stabilizing the secondary mortgage market.

The law required the publication in the federal register of the SPS with their variable rate liquidation preference tied to the commitment. It requires a public comment period, and a rule making process to make the SPS legal. It is the same law that required the capital rule. And the same law that required FHFA a year ago issue the new products law for MBS products. They have ignored this requirement for 15 years.

Director Lockhart Regulator, and Director Lockhart Conservator. Holding both positions as Regulator and Conservator; Conservator Lockhart is required by law to file notice to himself as Regulator.

The Safety and Soundness Act required Director Lockhart as regulator not conservator to approve a new product issued by Director Lockhart acting as conservator FHFA-C (SPS with variable liquidation Preference) to Treasury under the terms of the SPSPA for the purpose of carrying out the secondary mortgage market. He was required as regulator to file notice in the federal register, seek public comment and issue federal regulations for the new product we call the Senior Preferred shares sold to Treasury.

HOUSING AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY ACT OF 2008
Page 2689
SEC. 1321. PRIOR APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR PRODUCTS.
Link: https://www.congress.gov/110/plaws/publ289/PLAW-110publ289.pdf

The CFO act requires the Treasury department based on published accounting standards to determine if their actions of funding through appropriations, ownership of 100% of the GSEs net worth and non-regulatory control of the GSEs through the SPSPA require the consolidation of the GSEs liabilities onto the nations balance sheet. Do the actions of Treasury under the SPSPA require such consolidation under the plain language of the Chief Financial Officers Act?


The Congressional Budget Office publication states, “Federal Government effective ownership of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.”

The Enterprises have been Nationalized by the Government according to the CBO: The liabilities have not been added to the National Debt nor have the Shareholders been compensated by U.S. Law of the 5th Amendment.

Congressional Budget Office
From: Estimates of the Cost of Federal Credit Programs in 2023

Page 1, Foot Note 1.

Quote: “Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been in federal conservatorship since September 2008. CBO treats the two GSEs as government entities in its budget estimates because, under the terms of the conservatorships, the federal government retains operational control and effective ownership of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. For more discussion, see Congressional Budget Office, Effects of Recapitalizing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Through Administrative Actions (August 2020), www.cbo.gov/publication/56496; and Congressional Budget Office, The Effects of Increasing Fannie Mae’s and Freddie Mac’s Capital (October 2016), www.cbo.gov/ publication/52089” End of Quote

Link: https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2022-06/58031-Federal-Credit-Programs.pdf

The United States Treasury in violation of the Charter Act has failed to treat as public debt the transactions of the United States when the FHFA placed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into conservatorship. This obligation was never recorded as public debt as required by law.

The Charter Act the Law of the Land.

Charter Act SEC. 304. SECONDARY MARKET OPERATIONS
(c) Terms and Rates

Quote: “All redemptions, purchases, and sales by the Secretary of the Treasury of such obligations under this subsection SHALL BE TREATED AS PUBLIC DEBT TRANSACTIONS of the United States.” End of Quote Page 14

Link: https://www.fanniemae.com/sites/g/files/koqyhd191/files/migrated-files/resources/file/aboutus/pdf/fm-amended-charter.pdf

IF THE FHFA / TREASURY are allowed to continue with the violations discussed in the above writing, and the illegal contract of the SPSPA agreement is allowed to stand the Committee should give consideration to the FHFA Breach of Contract Bad faith and Unfair Dealings actions of the government in litigation that took place in Judge Lamberth's Court. It took 8 random DC Jurors only 10 hours of deliberations to see right through the Government's false narratives.

It’s bad faith and unfair dealing when the Regulator is authorized to pay down the Senior Preferred Stock and sent the Net Worth without the pay down option. The FHFA Director doesn’t need the Treasury approval to pay down the Senior Preferred Stock the Director has the authority from Congress written in HERA:

HOUSING AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY ACT OF 2008

RESTRICTION ON CAPITAL DISTRIBUTIONS.— page 2731
‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—A regulated entity shall make no capital distribution if, after making the distribution, the regulated entity would be undercapitalized. The exception.

Quote: “Page 2732

EXCEPTION.—Notwithstanding paragraph (1), the Director may permit a regulated entity, to the extent appropriate or applicable, to repurchase, redeem, retire, or otherwise acquire shares or ownership interests if the repurchase, redemption, retirement, or other acquisition— ‘‘(A) is made in connection with the issuance of additional shares or obligations of the regulated entity in at least an equivalent amount; and ‘‘(B) will reduce the financial obligations of the regulated entity or otherwise improve the financial condition of the entity.’’.

NOTE: REPURCHASE, REDEEM, RETIRE...

WILL REDUCE THE FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE REGULATED ENTITY.

Link: https://www.congress.gov/110/plaws/publ289/PLAW-110publ289.pdf

In essence allows the trustees of Fannie and Freddie to go to the market at any time to raise new capital, including new capital with lower dividend coupons, to buy back the Treasury’s senior preferred. Any loyal conservator of Fannie and Freddie would take advantage of this refinancing option to end the bailout arrangement, by paying off the senior preferred in full. The Treasury did not take a Perpetual Equity Investment in the enterprises, the Treasury stated a temporary investment period!

The calculation of the pay down of the liquidation preference of the Senior Preferred Stock, I am asking this committee to apply the law written in the HERA legislation passed by Congress.

Link to calculation:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15978NWfDcTtuClMBnwgWFmoPnwK94vWn/view

The liquidation preference has been paid and the Senior Preferred Stock should be canceled.

The law actually exists! FHFA and its Director are executive branch entities. They cannot make changes to federal laws. Only Congress can change the law.

Therefore, the U.S. Congress did not give DeMarco the power to take all the future profits of their wards in conservatorship into perpetuity, thus Nationalizing the GSES, based on an Incidental Power in HERA: The Net Worth Sweep.

The U.S. Congress would have given the FHFA more explicit instructions to do so than merely drafting in the HERA to do whatever it feels is in its best interests. DeMarco, this non-elected bureaucrat, has been allowed to steal the companies for the Treasury.

The SCOTUS upholding the NWS does not change the fact the liquidation preference can be paid down, and the Senior Preferred Stock redeemed under the terms of the law of HERA. The money kept by the Treasury by the NWS should be applied to principle and 10% interest and over payment should be returned to the companies. $301 billion is more than enough to pay the liquidation preference and redeem the Senior Preferred Stock.
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MRJ25 MRJ25 25 minutes ago
Nobody knows when Lamberth will rule.
But anything that must end will end.
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MoneyRobot MoneyRobot 33 minutes ago
Is that today?
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1203Simon 1203Simon 37 minutes ago
Seems like a fair deal.
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RickNagra RickNagra 44 minutes ago
Stuck between $1.38 and $1.39 for the last few hours. We need a good slapping.
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Sammy boy Sammy boy 52 minutes ago
A board of misfits !
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DaJester DaJester 59 minutes ago
"No, because the cash NWS removed all economic value from the junior pref and common shares. It isn't possible for any future deal to remove more value than that, therefore a further breach isn't really possible."

By that reasoning, both JPS and Common should be literally at zero right now. And the GSEs would no longer be a shareholder owned company. How do you explain that this is not the case?
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Mr.Fields Mr.Fields 2 hours ago
The "federal charter" suggests that if you are important enough, Uncle Sam might help you out. In the competitive financial markets, where balancing risk and reward is crucial, this can be a big advantage.
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MRJ25 MRJ25 2 hours ago
Waiting for Lamberth's ruling on the 8-0 verdict.
Release the Kraken.
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Rodney5 Rodney5 2 hours ago
The terms were set Sept 7, 2008,

I would think the two gov. agencies are together on the terms on day one.

U.S. TREASURY DEPARTMENT OFFICE OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS
EMBARGOED UNTIL 11 a.m. (EDT), September 7, 2008
CONTACT Brookly McLaughlin, (202) 622-2920
FACT SHEET: TREASURY SENIOR PREFERRED STOCK PURCHASE AGREEMENT

These agreements provide significant protections for the taxpayer, in the form of senior preferred stock
with a liquidation preference, an upfront $1 billion issuance of senior preferred stock with a 10% coupon
from each GSE, quarterly dividend payments, warrants representing an ownership stake of 79.9% in
each GSE going forward, and a quarterly fee starting in 2010.

Link: https://www.fhfa.gov/sites/default/files/2023-08/2008-8-7_SPSPA_FactSheet_508.pdf
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DaJester DaJester 2 hours ago
You clearly don't understand that investor expectations are not written in the contract and do not take into account every minutia of what changes over time. It is based on general expectations as a shareholder and what that entails. The company cannot thwart that general expectation that a shareholder is a part owner of a company and entitled to a share of the profits, as dictated by business results.

Lamberth said that investor expectations are not set at the time of original contracting but instead are updated with every relevant updates, which he specifically said includes the SPSPAs and amendments to them.

Yes, and even with those expectations, the NWS was a BREACH of the shareholder agreement. Now that it is established that it was a breach, we don't suddenly expect more breaches to be "ok" since there was one in the past.

SMH. This isn't complicated.
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DaJester DaJester 2 hours ago
There was no need for a commitment fee because FnF were already forking over boatloads of cash.

Wait... So if Treasury is already making or has made a "boatload" of cash, they won't seek more cash just because they can? I think this is counter to every other argument you've made.
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DaJester DaJester 2 hours ago
"All you are arguing is that Calabria's reporting can't lead to a 100% chance on a conversion."

No. I'm arguing that you are a hypocrite for saying because Calabria memorialized that someone from Treasury Thinks™ the writedown would be illegal that is somehow evidence that it is illegal. It's clearly not.

Since you claim to "know" this, you shouldn't have a hard time picking it out from this list.

Not difficult at all. This is a non-sequitur, a False Attribution, and an Argument from Authority.
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DaJester DaJester 2 hours ago
"Your goals are far more reasonable and pragmatic than just about any common (and several preferred) shareholder I have seen on this board. Kudos."

Wow. A rare compliment by KThomp, I'll take it. :)
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DaJester DaJester 2 hours ago
"You said "Trust us - we're from the Government... We'll let you keep a dollar if you owe us a dollar in the future. Brilliant!"

You really need to work on understanding humor and sarcasm better. I know this is a message board and it's hard to read context sometimes, but c'mon man...
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TightCoil TightCoil 2 hours ago
Houston Command to Launch Pad
Fannie and Freddie Projectiles Clear for Launch
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RickNagra RickNagra 3 hours ago
Good bye gains. It was nice to meet you.
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TightCoil TightCoil 3 hours ago
Freddie Mac expands DPA tool, starts developer academy

Freddie Mac Senior Vice President, Mission and Community Engagement, Single-Family Danny Gardner shared how Freddie Mac is working to increase affordable housing opportunities and support families’ homeownership goals.
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stink stack stink stack 3 hours ago
Show us Da money ya crooked GOONS!.
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CatBirdSeat CatBirdSeat 3 hours ago
Shitty Day
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zxjoshuaxz zxjoshuaxz 4 hours ago
Keep calling the whales!!
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RickNagra RickNagra 4 hours ago
Oh wow my posts are working. The price is starting to increase. I am a genius.
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make it or break it make it or break it 4 hours ago
ROCK ON WITH THE TRUMP TRADE YOU GOONS
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Barron4664 Barron4664 4 hours ago
Interesting. It seems that the Charter Act gave the secretary of Treasury the ability to set the terms and conditions of its purchase to protect the taxpayer. Those terms and conditions are enumerated in the SPSPA. However if the 10% dividend was not part of the terms and conditions of the agreement but only appear in the stock certificates offered after executing the agreement, then Treasury never asked for the 10% dividend on the Seniors in the first place. That means FHFA as Conservator offered the 10% as seller to Treasury. So why did FHFA choose 10%? FHFA wasn’t charged with setting terms to protect the taxpayer. It appears that Treasury did not set the dividend rate on the Seniors in writing until the NWS in 2013. Well after their authority to do so expired. Please correct if this is wrong.
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 4 hours ago
He specifically calls out FNMA Preferred, which means many of us are NOT in the right spot.
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RickNagra RickNagra 4 hours ago
Great podcast from @YetAnotherValue covering $FNMA and "The Trump Trade" with Marc Rubinstein. Worth a watch for those interested in $FNMA & $FMCC commons and/or preferred. #fanniemae #freddiemac #fnma #fmcc #stockmarket #ValueInvesting https://t.co/Z90cqHhqbn via @YouTube— Stephen McNamara (@SM_investidea) July 23, 2024
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RickNagra RickNagra 4 hours ago
$FMCC -> $FNMA WASHINGTON, July 23, 2024 /PRNewswire/ -- Fannie Mae (OTCQB: FNMA) today announced plans to report its second quarter 2024 financial results on Tuesday morning, July 30, 2024, before the opening of U.S. financial markets.
https://t.co/CAVi9fHXSJ— Patrick (@InvestIt3) July 23, 2024
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RickNagra RickNagra 4 hours ago
A super-sized Final Trade! @VD718, @Seawolfcap, @dmoses34, @timseymour, @RiskReversal and @GuyAdami go around the horn. $FNMA $PCT $GENI $GM $CME $GOLD pic.twitter.com/VM3H8PII7A— CNBC's Fast Money (@CNBCFastMoney) July 22, 2024
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RickNagra RickNagra 4 hours ago
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4702129-fannie-and-freddie-my-favorite-trump-stocks
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skeptic7 skeptic7 5 hours ago
The sun actually has a reason and purpose for rising daily that can be justified and quantified. FNMA does not share those traits.
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RickNagra RickNagra 5 hours ago
Oh wow $1.40 on deck.
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DCBill DCBill 5 hours ago
One simple answer is that the "federal charter" confirms a red-white-and blue relationship that, in turn, suggests, "If you are big and important enough, Uncle will come to your assistance."
In the competitive financial markets, constantly balancing risk/reward, that is a huge/monster benefit.
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RickNagra RickNagra 5 hours ago
Just like the sun the price should rise everyday.
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skeptic7 skeptic7 6 hours ago
Do you think it should have risen?
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Bostonsesco Bostonsesco 6 hours ago
Right $134.00
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Rodney5 Rodney5 6 hours ago
Quote: “Can someone point to the section of the SPSPA that demands seller pay a 10% dividend on the LP of the Seniors? I’m not talking about the share certificates." End of Quote

The 10% does not come up until the third amendment, unless I overlooked it.


SENIOR PREFERRED STOCK PURCHASE AGREEMENT September 7, 2008

The Periodic Commitment TO BE DETERMINED

The amount of the Periodic Commitment Fee shall be mutually agreed by Purchaser and Seller, subject to their reasonable discretion and in consultation with the Chairman of the Federal Reserve; provided, that Purchaser may waive the Periodic Commitment Fee for up to one year at a time, in its sole discretion, based on adverse conditions in the United States mortgage market.

AMENDED AND RESTATED SENIOR PREFERRED STOCK PURCHASE AGREEMENT September 26, 2008

TO BE DETERMINED

AMENDMENT TO AMENDED AND RESTATED SENIOR PREFERRED STOCK PURCHASE AGREEMENT September 26, 2008

TO BE DETERMINED

FIRST AMENDMENT TO AMENDED AND RESTATED SENIOR PREFERRED STOCK PURCHASE AGREEMENT May 6. 2009

TO BE DETERMINED

SECOND AMENDMENT TO AMENDED AND RESTATED SENIOR PREFERRED STOCK PURCHASE AGREEMENT December 24, 2009

TO BE DETERMINED

10% dividend

THIRD AMENDMENT TO AMENDED AND RESTATED SENIOR PREFERRED STOCK PURCHASE AGREEMENT August 17, 2012

Amendment to Paragraph 2(c) of Senior Preferred Stock (Relating to Dividend Rate and Dividend Amount). With respect to the Senior Preferred Stock Certificate sold by Seller to Purchaser and purchased by Purchaser from Seller, Seller agrees either to amend the existing paragraph 2(c) of the Senior Preferred Stock Certificate, or to issue a replacement Senior Preferred Stock Certificate, in either case so that, effective September 30, 2012, paragraph 2(c) reads as follows:
(c) For each Dividend Period from the date of the initial issuance of the Senior Preferred Stock through and including December 31, 2012, “Dividend Rate” means 10.0%; provided, however, that if at any time the Company shall have for any reason failed to pay dividends in cash in a timely manner as required by this Certificate, then immediately following such failure and for all Dividend Periods thereafter until the Dividend Period following the date on which the Company shall have paid in cash full cumulative dividends (including any unpaid dividends added to the Liquidation Preference pursuant to Section 8) the “Dividend Rate” shall mean 12.0%. Page 4

Link: https://www.fhfa.gov/sites/default/files/2023-07/FNM-Third-Amendment-to-the-Amended-and-Restated-SPSPA_08-17-2012.pdf

Link to all the Amendments : https://www.fhfa.gov/conservatorship/senior-preferred-stock-purchase-agreements
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Freddie bagholder Freddie bagholder 6 hours ago
Oma trying to sneak in his 4th term with puppet K
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RickNagra RickNagra 6 hours ago
Oh wow. Today will be a great day.
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stink stack stink stack 7 hours ago
Let it Ride ,........
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Golfbum22 Golfbum22 8 hours ago
GSE whack a mole game is still the favorite of Wall Street

Anytime we get to $1.49 or above

Sirens go off in the hallways and cafeterias of the Wall Street firms to beat us back down again


The game is fixed

We live in Pottersville
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Wise Man Wise Man 8 hours ago
Also, by enacting a homonymous UST backup "Authority of Treasury to purchase obligations" (Subsection (g)) at up to infinite rates and up to an infinite amount, just because you don't like the original one written just above it in the Charter Act, at rates similar to Treasuries, that is part of the Charter dynamics (the reason why FnF get funds on the market just a few basis points above the Treasury yields) and it just needed to be updated the outdated $2.25B limit, set more than 60 years ago.
Now, updated through the SPSPA, as it's the one that prevails.
This is what is known as Charter-hater.
FnF are not ordinary businesses.
Some of us have been arguing for years that ending Wall Street bailouts should be a conservative position pic.twitter.com/GVWCsO1UuL— Mark Calabria (@MarkCalabria) July 18, 2024
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EternalPatience EternalPatience 8 hours ago
Stock price prediction for today - close at 1.34$
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JOoa0ky JOoa0ky 9 hours ago
The assault on the legal front has failed and it's over.

It's time to turn the focus towards admin action.
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Barron4664 Barron4664 10 hours ago
Can someone point to the section of the SPSPA that demands seller pay a 10% dividend on the LP of the Seniors? I can’t find it in the actual agreements. I’m not talking about the share certificates. I want to see exactly where in the document the FHFA and Treasury both signed to have GSEs pay the 10% in the agreement that predates the creation of the share certificates.
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Wise Man Wise Man 12 hours ago
Why do people want the Charter Act, when everyone is a Charter-hater?
-The slogan of "implicit government guarantee on MBS" has the purpose to conceal the reality of a UST backup of the enterprises in the Charter Act as a last resort and at rates similar to Treasuries, in exchage for their Public Mission (section Purposes) that makes them take on credit risk not properly compensated, at least, it was before, because they no longer subsidize the g-fee in the process that leads to a Privatized Housing Finance System chosen by the UST for the release.
In this world, we aren't ruled by "implicit" rules, which are those not written anywhere. That is, a convenient fiction.

Continuing with the Purposes:
The Duty to Serve geographical markets is obsolete.
The Countercyclical role is only in financial crises, related to step up in crisis with secondary market operations (MBS) (Purpose of the Charter Act) buying more mortgage loans, not about refinancings and loan modifications as stated by renowned investors.

-The Credit Enhancement clause is being violated on a regular basis. It began with the PLMBSs that didn't have one of the enumerated credit enhancement operations and the mispricing of PLMBS caused the conservatorships, and instead, a small portion was covered by bond insurance, like today's ACIS in Freddie Mac, an unauthorized CRT.
Today, it's also prohibited their CRT operations with risk-sharing deals: STACR and CAC, in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, respectively.

-The clause Fee Limitation of the United States, was first violated with the 4.2 bps on new acquisitions sent to two Affordable Housing funds managed by the UST and HUD, contemplated in the amendment of the FHEFSSA by HERA.
Then, the 10 bps guarantee fee funneled to the UST quarterly in the TCCA of 2012, called TCCA fees. Once it expired after 10 years, it was renamed BBB fee, so it can continue nowadays.
Likely, the CRT operations is more money sent to UST under Mnuchin's slongan: "the taxpayer be appropriately compensated". That is, another fee sent to the UST despite the PROHIBITION. He might be referring to a different Charter Act.
Only the UST can do risk-sharing deals with its portion (35%) of the 4.2 bps mentioned before allocated to the Capital Magnet Fund, according the statutory provision. Suspended till December 2014, they might have thought that the UST needed more money and that's why they came out with the deceitful CRT market, CRT symposiums,...


This is Mark Calabria, promoting the CRT as a "GSE reform", as in "Look! I'm making up a new Charter Act on my own":


-No one has mentioned their Charters during the court proceedings: the Supreme Court, plaintiffs, etc. Only the SCOTUS-appointed amicus, law professor Nielson: "FnF are not ordinary businesses", who also spotted the original UST backup of the enterprises, subsection (b) redeemable obligations (c) any, such as SPS (obligations in respect of capital stock. Preferred stocks are permanent securities by redeemable at the option of the issuer).


-Calabria recently refuted that their MBS are guaranteed by the government, but he wasn't capable of naming the statutory provision in the Charter Act that says so:


No one likes the Charter Act, yet they want to keep it. Huh?
The reason has more to do with their desire of secured deals provided by FnF with the sale of loans and REO inventory to investors and interest groups.
For instance, PIMCO has been the winner for 3 years in a row, of the last 10 sales of RPL in Fannie Mae. Those loans should have been bundled into MBS again and sold to the market.

For instance, it isn't a coincidence that Millstein picked Fannie Mae as the one in charge of buying construction loans (despite the prohibition in the Charter Act, another example of Charter-hater), when Freddie Mac has better prospects just watching its amount of Deferred Income in comparison to Fannie Mae ($41B vs $19B).
They want at least to keep one of the GSEs for their secured deals.
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Wise Man Wise Man 13 hours ago
A "cattle market-style" negotiation today to unwind Fanniegate, that I refuted yesterday in my 3 replies to DaJester, is the longstanding take by the plotters with: "the Treasury has already been repaid", referring to the 10% dividend, instead of being part of the same scheme as the NWS dividend, of "assessments" sent to a Separate Account, FHLB-style ("to ensure repayment of principal"), to ensure the redemption of the SPS. The assessment is applied in full towards the reduction of SPS, as dividends are restricted, unlike the FHLBs that had to pay first an annuity of $300mll in interests (a rate with a 0.299% spread over Treasuries). The rule is the spread, not the resulting interest rate that depends on the market rates at the time. It's not our fault that ST tapped the maximum legal amount of $30B when she arrived at the FDIC in 1991, when the Treasury yields were 10% for a similar obligation with a 40-year maturity. To make things worse, the FHLB used their Separate Account to pay the 40 years of interest-only in their REFCorp bond sooner, instead of repaying the principal of the bond sooner, as set forth in the law.

The last person to peddle this proposal was the plaintiff and attorney, Bryndon Fisher, in a Google Drive document shared throughout the social media and reposted by the usual suspects, Guido and Co.
During the last months, it was the pro se plaintiff Joshua Angel the one in charge of posting the link to the document repeatedly on this board, with one of his more than 50 different aliases that he uses here, and who looks like is behind DaJester. He simply added on his own the theme of "reclassification" of each dividend payment in the past and then, back to the future.

It's very important to know who said what and why, because these Fanniegate attorneys are acting under the orders of bigger players, directly working for Wall Street firms or for their celebrities on Twitter, and all of them face crippling liabilities for peddling the government theft story in formal documents, like a court brief or a corporate document.
This is why they seek a resolution accommodated to what they've previously pointed out, which was based on the cover-up of many statutory provisions:
-Restriction on Capital distributions: Dividends, today's SPS LP increased for free and the Lamberth rebate.
-FHFA-C's rehab power, is about the recapitalization of the enterprises and reduction of SPS. Their financial condition as seen on the Balance Sheets, not in External Positions, measured with Capital and Debt ratios. Recapitalization means to build regulatory capital, not Net Worth, not "Capital Reserve" which is how the SPSPA calls the Net Worth, not SPS.
-The original rate on the UST backup of the enterprises, similar to Treasuries.
-The Fee Limitation of the United States except the prior rate mentioned, also in the Charter Act, just to give a sense about what the Charter is about, for those that think that the Treasury can make profits with FnF.

For instance, with "reclassification" of the dividend, they want to transmit the idea that approving the dividend was just fine during conservatorship and they did it right by not challenging it, and it just needs to be reclassified.
First of all, you can't reclassify something that has already happened in the past.
The dividend was unlawful because it's prohibited in the Restriction on Capital Distributions that they have covered up, along with the breach of the FHFA-C's Rehab power, and thus, the only resolution possible is to legalize it, contending that the FHFA has misled and it has sent assessments to the Treasury in the form of capital distribution, under the guise of dividend payment, applied towards the exceptions to the restriction on capital distributions: Reduce the SPS (U.S. Code 4614(e)) and, later on, the recapitalization (CFR 1237.12).
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DCBill DCBill 16 hours ago
With my employment history, despite that I've been gone for over 20 years, I believe I understand how the GSE game is played. I never would engage in those stock hijinks and I resent the suggestion.
I stated my political opinion and I thought I made that clear. Whether you buy or sell, either company, that's your call not mine.
If you can find my previous IH posts, from past years, going back to when I published a blog (with similar thoughts there as well), you'll see similar statements.
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RickNagra RickNagra 16 hours ago
What really bothers me is that this article came out on Sunday yet today Monday we closed in the red.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 17 hours ago
If the government decides to put a road through my yard and I take them to court, will the road get reversed or taken out? No, because that action is not illegal. However, I will get monetary damages.

That would be a classic example of a taking. All of the NWS takings cases are completely dead, so your example contradicts the point you're trying to make rather than confirming it.

Did the NWS result in monetary damages granted to Shareholders? YEP.

For reasons entirely unrelated to takings.



(from another post)

Treasury may win. There may be no additional lawsuit wins. But that has nothing to do with the SCOTUS "blessing" the NWS.

The Collins opinion has already had an effect on potential future lawsuit wins: it has prevented at least two major lawsuits (which would have been funded by major junior pref shareholders) from even being filed due to how difficult it is now perceived to get a win against Treasury.

That is not what happened. If it had, the Lamberth jury decision would be overturned.

If the NWS, which directly contradicted FHFA's duty to preserve and conserve assets and maintaining adequate capital, was not ultra vires it's hard to imagine something they could realistically do in the future that is. Certainly not something as simple (and helpful to the companies!) as the LP ratchet.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 17 hours ago
In consideration for keeping $1, you will owe us $1 in liquidation preference, and you will pay us 10% dividend on it at a time we determine, and until we say otherwise.

I think you are underestimating the value that being able to keep their earnings has to FnF. It drastically reduces (or even virtually eliminates, according to the stress tests) the possibility that FnF will have to draw on Treasury's funding commitment and potentially exhaust it, triggering mandatory receivership.

Does that not sound like a breach of good faith and fair dealing?

No, because the cash NWS removed all economic value from the junior pref and common shares. It isn't possible for any future deal to remove more value than that, therefore a further breach isn't really possible.

Sounds AWEFULLY similar to the last breach which was you make a $1 you owe us $1....

The companies have already been found to have violated the implied covenant by signing an agreement (the NWS) that removed all economic value from the privately held shares. That breach was fully compensated for by the jury's verdict. Ordering the companies to pay even more for (at worst!) merely continuing that same breach sounds AWFULLY like double jeopardy.
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