By Brendan Intindola, Andrew Johnson and Mia Lamar 
 

Bank executives from across the country presented a dour outlook for 2013 at a two-day investor conference in Lower Manhattan sponsored by Goldman Sachs, saying they expect continued low interest rates stemming from Fed stimulus efforts to hurt profits.

"The environment in 2013 will continue to be difficult," said James Rohr, chairman and chief executive of PNC Financial Services Group Inc. (PNC). "We're going to continue to have low interest rates."

Doug Braunstein, chief financial officer of J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. (JPM), told the audience at the Conrad Hotel near Goldman's headquarters that lower rates would reduce 2012 and 2013 profits by $400 million in each year, and that capital-market revenue was lower in the current quarter than in the previous one.

State Street Corp. (STT) held fast to its October warning that rock-bottom interest rates and another round of Fed bond-buying could push down its net interest margin next year at the high end of a 10 to 12 basis point range.

"We also expect the rate of decline to continue in 2013," Chief Financial Officer Edward Resch said. "Additionally, We're not expecting our balance sheet to grow significantly next year."

The comments come on top of recent data showing deal-making and trading activity slowing in the fourth quarter.

Equity and debt underwriting have slowed from the third quarter, completed merger activity is slowing as well, and trading volumes are barely higher according to a recent Barclays note.

Nomura analyst Glenn Schorr said in a note that "negatives outweigh the positives" in October, and that the fourth quarter appeared to be falling short of estimates. "We are not expecting a huge pick-up in activity through the end of the year," the note said.

Still, a few bank executives were optimistic.

"Investors do have to get back into the marketplace," said Bank of New York Mellon Corp. (BK) Chief Executive Gerald Hassell. "Any little bit of economic growth on a global scale cannot be supported by bank balance sheets, so it's going to cause the capital markets to re-energize."

Many said they believed policy makers in Washington would achieve some kind of resolution to the so-called fiscal cliff dilemma of combined tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect Jan. 1, which could boost optimism and economic growth.

"I think they're actually very close," BlackRock Inc. (BLK) chairman Larry Fink told the audience. "I think it's a lot of noise. I think if we had business people in the room doing an M&A deal, this thing would have been settled weeks ago. To me, I think the reach on both sides is not that great for a real compromise."

He added: "In my conversations with a lot of the men and women who were involved in the negotiations, they believe they will find a solution, but it will happen at the last moment."

And Morgan Stanley (MS) executive vice president Greg Fleming said if there is a resolution to the uncertainty that markets embrace, "then we think 2013 could be a different environment from a market standpoint for the first time in a number of years."

But overall, many of the executives comments tended to sound more like those of Ken Chenault, chairman and chief executive officer of American Express Co. (AXP), who was downbeat about his expectations for consumer borrowing going forward, and noted many consumers have trimmed their debt since the financial crisis and are less apt to carry large balances. The shift has made it difficult for many credit-card lenders, which largely rely on interest income, to increase revenue.

"I, in fact, have serious doubts that the lending behaviors that existed pre-financial crisis are going to return 100%," Mr. Chenault said. "I think that some consumer behaviors have changed."

Write to Christian Berthelsen at christian.berthelsen@dowjones.com

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