Mr Cooper Group Inc (COOP) Quote

Right, COOP is VERY CHEAP, $250+ is fair value IMO

Check COOP's current P/E ratio: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/COOP/key-statistics?p=COOP

COOP's trailing P/E is only: 8.87
COOP's forward P/E is only: 8.06

The P/E ratios in this list (data is as of January 2024)
Financial Svcs. (Non-bank & Insurance) covering 172 companies is the correct row:

http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/pedata.html

Financial Svcs. (Non-bank & Insurance)
The average P/Es are:
Current: 34.63
Trailing: 25.59
Forward: 25.54

So COOP's P/E is way too low and COOP is absolutely UNDERVALUED.
The PPS should be $250+ considering the forward P/E in my opinion!

Your post:
Yeah!!!! Buy on the dip….

Hi jhd I did “ Let’s hope COOP/OTIS pps.catches some of the temporarily happiness” 😉
It does seem for now the banks & Techs are are enjoying , utilities and COOP/OTIS not so much as of this post 🫣🤔

To The sky is falling OR The sky is going to fall and the throw enough shet against the barn door and SOOONER OR LATER something’s is gonna stick people

Since 1900, the market has had a pattern of crashing every seven to eight years, according to Morningstar and Investopedia. It is not an exact pattern (e.g., no significant crash in 2015), but there seems to be enough data to at least mention it. Here are some of the larger market crashes we’ve experienced over the years. The dates reflect when the crash started (the peak).

1903 - Rich Man’s Panic (-22%)
1906 - General panic (-34%)
1911 - WWI and influenza (-51%)
1929 - Great Depression (-79%)
1937 - WWII (-50%)
1946 - Postwar bear market (-37%)
1961 - Cold War/Cuban Missile Crisis (-23%)
1966 - Recession (-22%)
1968 - Inflation bear market (-36%)
1972 - Inflation, Vietnam War and Watergate (-52%)
1980 - Stagflation (-27%)
1987 - Black Monday (-30%)
1990 - Iraq invaded Kuwait (-20%)
2000 - Dot-com crash (-49%)
2007 - Housing crisis (-56%)
2020 - COVID-19 pandemic (-34%)
——————
Sooner or later ,it’s not rocket science, TIMING IS THE SMART ONE 🤔

Have a great day people GLTA-Ts😉

Well done - you found a JPM Bond prospectus from April 2023 !

Definitely totally relevant for former Escrow holders expecting gazillion dollar payouts

Newflow, I’ll mention it again. Nationstar is not considered to be the Debtor or Reorganized Debtor. Reorganized Debtor Merged and the Surviving Entity is Nationstar. Nationstar L.L.C./Nationstar Holdings, can purchase those Assets. They are their Best Customers. Excuse me, “The Very Important Client.” ( My Opinion )
Remember: Nationstar gets 36% and Wmih gets 64% of Perpetual Assets is a No Brainer. They have Mastered This Strategy!

Well that throws out the soon and really soon prediction

Yeah!!!! Buy on the dip….

🚀💥🚀UPDATED $COOP price targets==>UBS:$118, Wedbush:$115, KBW:$105 (from $96), Piper Sandler:$103, Barclays:$101, Compass Point:$97, DEUTSCHE BANK:$90

See: https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/MR-COOPER-GROUP-INC-46600303/consensus/

I am of the opinion now that we are not going anywhere until Coop buys what they need to buy in stock.

JHD

I've never counted pre as it is NOT market hours

Sort of looks like the 80's coming back

BECAUSE THEY CAN and WILL until they can't anymore

What a pos. Now back to $ 93.20.

$98.76 pre

96.15 pre-market > new all-time high!

Hey SUSU Take a BOND if you have any value in this?????????????

"$125,157,168,784
JPMORGAN CHASE & CO.
Debt Securities
Warrants
Units
Purchase Contracts
Guarantees
JPMORGAN CHASE FINANCIAL COMPANY LLC
Debt Securities
Warrants
We, JPMorgan Chase & Co., may from time to time offer and sell any of our securities listed above, in
each case, in one or more series. Our subsidiary, JPMorgan Chase Financial Company LLC, which we
refer to as “JPMorgan Financial,” also may from time to time offer and sell its securities listed above, in
each case, in one or more series. We fully and unconditionally guarantee all payments of principal,
interest and other amounts payable on any debt securities or warrants JPMorgan Financial issues. Up to
$125,157,168,784, or the equivalent thereof in any other currency, of these securities may be offered
from time to time, in amounts, on terms and at prices that will be determined at the time they are offered
for sale. These terms and prices will be described in more detail in one or more supplements to this
prospectus."

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/19617/000095010323005751/crt_dp192097-424b2.pdf

· Minimum denominations of $10,000 and integral multiples of $1,000 in excess thereof
Key Terms

Issuer: JPMorgan Chase Financial Company LLC, a direct, wholly owned finance subsidiary of JPMorgan Chase & Co
Guarantor: JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Reference Rate: 2-Year U.S. Dollar SOFR ICE Swap Rate (the “ICE Swap Rate”) determined as set forth under “Supplemental Terms of the Notes” in this pricing supplement
Payment at Maturity:
If the Final Reference Rate is greater than or equal to the Reference Strike Rate or is less than the Reference Strike Rate by up to the Buffer Percentage, at maturity you will receive a cash payment that provides you with a return per $1,000 principal amount note equal to the Contingent Digital Return. Accordingly, under these circumstances, your payment at maturity per $1,000 principal amount note will be calculated as follows:

$1,000 + ($1,000 × Contingent Digital Return)

If the Final Reference Rate is less than the Reference Strike Rate by more than the Buffer Percentage, at maturity you will lose 1.66667% of the principal amount of your notes for every 1% that the Final Reference Rate is less than the Reference Strike Rate by more than the Buffer Percentage. Under these circumstances, your payment at maturity per $1,000 principal amount note will be calculated as follows:

$1,000 + [$1,000 × (Reference Rate Return + Buffer Percentage) × Downside Leverage Factor]

If the Final Reference Rate is less than the Reference Strike Rate by more than the Buffer Percentage, you will lose some or all of your principal amount at maturity.

Contingent Digital Return: At least 12.10%, which reflects the maximum return on the notes. Accordingly, assuming a Contingent Digital Return of 12.10%, the maximum payment at maturity per $1,000 principal amount note is $1,121.00. The actual Contingent Digital Return will be provided in the pricing supplement and will not be less than 12.10%.
Buffer Percentage: 40%
Downside Leverage Factor: 1.66667
Strike Date:

Pricing Date:

September 17, 2024

On or about September 18, 2024

Original Issue Date: On or about September 23, 2024 (Settlement Date)
Observation Date†: September 30, 2025
Maturity Date††: October 3, 2025

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1665650/000121390024079546/ea0214930-01_424b2.htm

🔥🔥🔥Rate cut is great, banks GAPPING UP pre-market, COOP probably hedged against this rate cut and could start ramping-up its mortgage origination business soon IMO

Gooood morning people, Hold on kiddies the markets are blowing up after yesterdays 1/2% and some are saying it’s a political move so close to the elections not counting the 818, OOPS , Anyhow watching the markets today should be interesting , Let’s hope COOP/OTIS pps.catches some of the temporarily happiness along with a few of my utility funds 😉lol
GOGOOOOOCOOP

HAVE A GREAT DAY PEOPLE-GLTA-Ts

Get a life dude/dudettte! Gezzzzz! You are truly out of touch with not just reality, but everything! I did not state a fairytale, actually I stated the following “ Get a life and let others believe what they wish, even if it’s a fairy tale.” You clearly lack the ability to read and comprehend. You are definitely and expert of posted garbage as your posting is redundant garbage. Regardless of a bona fide source of recovery, you have in fact engaged me in discussion. Oh and likewise FO!

Not seriously significant that it's been renewed but obviously nobody's running from the name or the concept. I doubt that there's a legal reason why they could not use it even if everything was defunct.

I believe you could be correct ,thank you for your insight!

JHD

Couldn’t agree more…

Depends on "whose" reset we are talking about. The W.E.F. Great Reset = No Bueno

Newflow, the following quote from our Saviour naturally also applies to you:

"Why are you hanging around this message board for years now????? You are not a shareholder in the previous company which was reorganized 12 years ago! Your equity values were cancelled and extinguished, along with any rights to dividends!"

So why won't you let the "Club", as Killinger called the most social organisation of all time on the East Coast, help you? Everyone can see how much time and consequently money they invest in our salvation. Where is your respect and recognition for them through silence? 🤷‍♂️

That has been used for email communications. I received emails from Smith and Logan in 2022.

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Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
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Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2025-10-17T16:54:55Z
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Reseller:
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Registry Registrant ID:
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Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: 5335 Gate Parkway care of Network Solutions PO Box 459
Registrant City: Jacksonville
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Tech Street: 5335 Gate Parkway care of Network Solutions PO Box 459
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>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2024-09-18T23:00:06Z

That would be the Washington Mutual Incorporated trust. I'm curious if there was a name attached to the domain registration record. Most often it's just a technical department or something as the contact.
Somebody told somebody to renew that domain name. Who are those somebodies?

Thanks

wmitrust.net

Which domain name?

Domain name extended
Expires On
2025-10-17
Registered On
2011-10-17
Updated On
2024-09-17

Here's something about derivatives and the rate cut today and historical events in the financial markets including comment on our dollar:




Historically, a cut in interest rates by the Federal Reserve tends to stimulate economic activity, including increased investment in securities. Here’s a breakdown of how this situation might unfold:

### Immediate Effects of Rate Cuts

1. **Lower Borrowing Costs**: A reduction in interest rates makes borrowing cheaper for individuals and businesses. This can lead to increased consumer spending and business investment.

2. **Increased Liquidity**: Lower rates often result in more liquidity in the market, as businesses and consumers take advantage of cheaper loans. This can stimulate economic growth.

3. **Attraction to Equities**: As bond yields decrease due to lower interest rates, investors may seek higher returns in equities, leading to increased demand for stocks.

### Historical Context

- **1970s**: The economy faced stagflation, but rate cuts in certain periods did spur stock market rallies, albeit with high volatility.

- **1980s**: The aggressive rate cuts in the early '80s helped combat recession, leading to a robust bull market later in the decade.

- **1990s**: The tech boom was partly fueled by low interest rates, encouraging investment in innovation and startups.

- **2008 Financial Crisis**: The Fed's drastic rate cuts post-crisis aimed to stabilize the economy, leading to a prolonged bull market in the following decade.

### Looking Ahead

1. **Market Sentiment**: If the market perceives the rate cut as a sign of confidence in economic recovery, we may see a rally in stock prices.

2. **Sector Performance**: Certain sectors, like technology and consumer discretionary, often benefit more from lower rates as they rely heavily on financing for growth.

3. **Inflation Considerations**: If inflation begins to rise due to increased spending, the Fed may have to adjust rates again, which could impact market stability.

4. **Global Factors**: Geopolitical tensions, supply chain issues, and other global economic factors will also play a significant role in market dynamics over the next five years.

### Predictive Analysis

Using predictive statistics, one might expect:

- **Continued Growth**: If economic indicators remain positive, we could see a sustained upward trend in stock valuations.

- **Volatility**: Markets may experience increased volatility as investors react to both economic data and Fed policies.

- **Investment Shifts**: A potential shift from traditional sectors to emerging industries, particularly green technologies and digital platforms, could reshape market dynamics.

### Conclusion

While a rate cut typically leads to a more active buying trend in securities, the overall impact will depend on a combination of domestic economic performance, investor sentiment, and external global factors. Monitoring these elements closely will be crucial for assessing future market directions.


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The issue of derivatives held by major banks is indeed a significant concern in the financial landscape. Here’s an overview of the potential implications and risks associated with this situation:

### Understanding Derivatives and Their Risks

1. **What Are Derivatives?**
Derivatives are financial contracts whose value is linked to the performance of an underlying asset, index, or interest rate. Common types include options, futures, and swaps.

2. **Exposure and Leverage**:
Many banks hold large positions in derivatives, often using them for hedging or speculative purposes. However, the lack of capital backing can lead to excessive leverage, increasing systemic risk.

### Potential for Market Disruption

1. **Counterparty Risk**:
If one party in a derivative contract defaults, it can create a chain reaction. Major banks are interconnected through these contracts, meaning that a default could trigger widespread panic and instability.

2. **Lack of Transparency**:
The complexity and opacity of derivatives make it difficult for regulators and investors to assess the true risk exposure of these banks. This can lead to a false sense of security in the market.

3. **Regulatory Gaps**:
If banks are not adequately audited or if there are loopholes in the regulatory framework, it could mask the extent of their overextension. This lack of oversight might allow risky practices to continue unchecked.

### Who Could Call the Derivatives?

1. **Regulators**:
Financial regulators, such as the Federal Reserve or the SEC, could demand audits and transparency from banks regarding their derivative holdings. Stricter regulations could force banks to reduce their exposure.

2. **Market Participants**:
Investors and analysts could raise concerns about a bank’s balance sheet, prompting market reactions. If confidence wanes, it could lead to sell-offs in stocks and derivatives.

### Mechanisms for a Market Crash

1. **Panic Selling**:
If it becomes apparent that a major bank is overextended, investors may rush to sell off shares and derivatives, leading to a sharp decline in market values.

2. **Liquidity Crisis**:
A sudden loss of confidence can lead to a liquidity crunch, where banks struggle to meet obligations, further exacerbating the situation.

3. **Credit Freeze**:
If banks become wary of lending due to concerns over their own exposure, it could lead to a credit freeze, stifling economic growth and investment.

### Conclusion

While the potential for derivatives to contribute to a market crash exists, it largely hinges on transparency, regulatory oversight, and market confidence. Increased scrutiny and proper auditing of banks' derivative
The value of the U.S. dollar in global markets is significantly influenced by its circulation and various economic factors. Here are some key points to consider:

### Impact of Dollar Circulation on Its Value

1. **Supply and Demand Dynamics**:
An increase in the circulation of dollars, often resulting from expansive monetary policy (like quantitative easing), can lead to a dilution of the dollar’s value. If more dollars are in circulation without a corresponding increase in economic output, it can weaken the dollar against other currencies.

2. **Inflation Concerns**:
A higher money supply can raise inflation expectations. If investors anticipate that inflation will erode the dollar's purchasing power, they may seek to hold assets denominated in other currencies or commodities, further decreasing the dollar's value.

3. **Global Reserve Currency Status**:
The U.S. dollar remains the world’s primary reserve currency, which creates a consistent demand for it. This demand can help maintain its value, even when the money supply increases. However, challenges to this status (e.g., rising currencies like the euro or yuan) could alter this dynamic.

4. **Interest Rates and Investment Flows**:
When the Federal Reserve cuts interest rates, as mentioned earlier, it can lead to lower returns on dollar-denominated assets. This might prompt investors to seek higher returns elsewhere, putting downward pressure on the dollar’s value.

### Conclusion

The amount of dollars in circulation plays a crucial role in determining its value on the world stage. Balancing monetary policy to foster economic growth while maintaining the dollar's strength is a delicate task for the Federal Reserve, with significant implications for both domestic and global markets. positions could reveal vulnerabilities, prompting necessary reforms. It's crucial for regulators to ensure that banks maintain adequate capital reserves to mitigate these risks and promote financial stability.

LOL good on 'ya.

Newflow, Nationstar is not considered to be the Debtor or Reorganized Debtor. Reorganized Debtor Merged and the Surviving Entity is Nationstar. Nationstar L.L.C./Nationstar Holdings, can purchase those Assets. They are their Best Customers. Excuse me, “The Very Important Client.” ( My Opinion ) Nationstar gets 36% and Wmih gets 64% of Perpetual Assets is a No Brainer. They have Mastered This Strategy!

lota Pursuant to the Plan, the Liquidating Trust Assets (generally, other than any assets allocated to the
Disputed Equity Escrow, discussed below) are treated, for U.S. federal income tax purposes, as having
been transferred, subject to any obligations relating to those assets, directly to the holders of the
respective Claims or Equity Interests' in satisfaction of their Claims or cancellation of their Equity
Interests (with each holder receiving an undivided interest in such assets in accord with their economic
interests in such assets), followed by the transfer by the holders to the Liquidating Trust of such assets in
exchange for Liquidating Trust Interests. Accordingly, all parties must treat the Liquidating Trust as a
grantortrust of which the holders of the Liquidating Trust Interests are the owners and grantors, and
treat the Liquidating Trust Beneficiaries as the direct owners of an undivided interest in the Liquidating
Trust Assets (other than any assets allocated to the Disputed Equity Escrow), consistent with their
economic interests therein, for all U.S. federal income tax purposes.

NEWFLOW
As has been said here for yrs

1.6 No Reversion to Debtors. In no event shall any part of the Liquidating Trust ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Assets)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) revert to or be distributed to any Debtor or Reorganized Debtor.
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THEY can only receive a carve out of 2.5%

All of the above $$$$$$ Plus from on high

First off, GOD has nothing to do with this. Second, if it’s been discussed a zillion times before, what does that say about a response from you?! Gezzzzzz! Think!

I'm not entirely certain we can ever recover Bob.

A reset might be the only way out. They've effectively gutted the US dollar now.

BINGO PARD
As I have said before many times, THEY DID NOT ADDRESS COMMERCIAL PAPER IN 08 and it has ONLY GOTTEN WORSE, lots worse.
This will dwarf 2008 by a long shot..................................... HOLD ON IT'S COMING and imho it will take us MANY YEARS to recover

for gods sake newflow, this has been discussed a zillion times before, but you JUST DONT UNDERSTAND,OR DO NOT WANT TO UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.... the reason that the assets of the WMIL-T cannot revert to the reorganized debtor is because it was a GRANTORS TRUST!!!!!!!.... what does that mean?... it means the GRANTOR is the beneficiary of the assets held in the Trust which was to be distributed to the Liquidating Trusts beneficiaries who held valid claims... this was done.... now, what happens to any assets not distributed?... the assets must be disposed of by donating them to a charitable organization.... why?... because if the assets returned to the reorganized debtor, it would violate the IRS rules... why?... because the assets would be passed through a non taxable Grantors Trust , then back to the Grantor without TAX BEING PAID !!!!!!!!!!..... now please quit this incessant non sense of asking questions about this whole affair, WHEN YOU DID NOT EVEN READ ANY DOCUMENTS!!!!!... or, if you did read them, then you attempt to parse them to fit your failed agenda... go get a job... the chapter 11 closed 12 years ago, and your previous equity values were cancelled and extinguished forever... Lodas

JHD, I've been pondering the COOP yoyo , and I think they won't let it go way up, until COOP is done buying back stock.

IMO, 50M is where they want it to be...but I'm hopefully it's 60M....which would be right around the corner. I think we are 64.5M right now.

The price action is laughable.

JHD

I hope it helps your situation.

lota 1.6 No Reversion to Debtors. In no event shall any part of the Liquidating Trust Assets revert to or be distributed to any Debtor or Reorganized Debtor.
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RMT
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reverse-morris-trust.asp

Gary ,yep they took the aggressive road ,most of the market boyzzz are happy
GoGooooooCOOP
GLTA-Ts

.50 rate cut.

$96 all time high

Go COOP!!!!

Yes!

JHD

jhd Yes their needs to be more cuts , how many depends on the % of each cut of course
Look I still hold a nice chuck of COOP/ OTIS I hope so but I’m fine with it either way and of course I like more and more isssss better lol

GoGooooooCOOP GLTA-Ts😉