Livewire Ergogenics Inc (PK) (LVVV) Quote

Well I can’t prove bill personally payed or didn’t pay the taxes .
I did find some interesting information here on the matter

https://crrecords.slocounty.ca.gov/SLOWeb/search/DOCSEARCH262S3
Estrella Ranch partners LLC
Estrella land company LLC
All names if one needs to search

" I was wondering what took them so long to do it. "

I think I know that answer too.

I don't remember the exact rate, but the lien was bought at a ridiculously low rate. A s most are nowadays, to my frustration as a bidder. The one i had in FL was accruing interest at 0.25%, so I didn't pay it until the last month before they could foreclose. I Knew the borrower would not pay it, but I didn't want to waste money paying it since it was such a low rate. The rate on the ranch was also very low. I remember looking at it a few years ago, trying to buy it if possible. So the lender decided to not pay it and use that money elsewhere, knowing they would have to pay it eventually, but only paying a small increase in value as the rate was so low.

Okay, I'm back out of this conversation and board. On to my other things. Good luck to you in your picks. Oh, and I agree ... "But lets not discuss the foreclosure as too many still believe in Billy." I gave up on that thought years ago.

Clearly missed the point of the topic. If you followed you would have seen the claims by the other poster that I was debating. My point was it WASN'T the responsibility of the lienholder to pay those taxes under normal circumstances, as the other poster attempted to claim it was.
In the end the lienholder paid the property taxes for the reasons that you stated. Of course any lienholder would pay the past due taxes and I was wondering what took them so long to do it. I suppose they were waiting to foreclose on the property, which they did.
But lets not discuss the foreclosure as too many still believe in Billy.

I don't care either way on this argument you guys are having. But I do have a bit to add on a correction of something you said.

"I am not sure if you own any real estate but the owner/buyer is responsible to pay them, not the mortgage/lien holder."

I am the lienholder of a mortgage in Florida. And as the lienholder, I just last week paid the taxes on that property. So yes lienholders CAN pay the taxes.
Why did i do it? Because the tax lien holder was getting close to the timing to be able to foreclose on the property. If the tax lien foreclosed, I would have lost my position and they would own the property free and clear. So, as my mortgage states and allows, I paid the taxes, I threw the borrower into default (Which raised my rate significantly. A positive for me) and they now owe me the paid tax money ($30K in this case for 3 years of taxes) in addition to the principal owed. All earning a higher rate of return.

They are now working on a refi, to get their rate back down. Until it happens, and it will be tough with the notice of foreclosure already filed, they will pay the higher rate. If worse comes to worst, and it goes to foreclosure sale at the courthouse steps many months from now, then my opening bid as the lender will be the mortgage due plus the tax bill paid plus accrued interest from now until then. Which is still about $160K less than it is worth, so it will be bought by some third party bidder at the auction and I'll get paid off for the entire mortgage plus the taxes plus the higher rate of return between now and then. I don't think it will go to foreclosure, since there is so much equity, but for now, I've paid the taxes and that amount is owed to me the lender in addition to the mortgage, all at the higher rate.

So yes, a lender CAN and WILL pay the taxes when it is close to the foreclosure date for the tax lien holder. As I thought it was LAST year for Bill, since this is a commercial property and was past the required holding date for the tax lien owner to start foreclosure. FYI. Again - don't care either way, but wanted to let you know it does happen. Rare, but it happens.

So you guessed that a guy that never paid the property taxes from day one, suddenly, after the property was foreclosed on, paid the property taxes. I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn, half priced this week😂


You said this, earlier "What proof do you have that Bill was responsible for paying the taxes for the last five years?"
Last you said this "I’m going by the information that bill is/was the managing member of Estralla Ranch Partners LLC the supposed buyer and owner of the property"

I’m going by the information that bill is/was the managing member of Estralla Ranch Partners LLC the supposed buyer and owner of the property

So, by your reply I can see that you made up the claim that Bill paid them. I am not sure if you own any real estate but the owner/buyer is responsible to pay them, not the mortgage/lien holder. They do not do impounds, you may want to google that or I can put you in touch with my commercial broker and he can explain

What proof do you have that Bill was responsible for paying the taxes for the last five years?

Again, I see no proof that Bill paid the taxes, do you have some? For all anyone knows I could have paid the taxes. All we see is the taxes, which Bill did not pay for five years, are suddenly paid.

Bill a crooked piece of chit

Apparently bill hodson lvvv ceo and managing member of Estrella Ranch partners LLC paid the taxes

I do not see who actually paid the bill, do you see something that I missed?

ESTRELLA RANCH PARTNERS LLC
Look it up

https://services.slocountytax.org/default.aspx?APN=015%2c021%2c023&csus=0&ads=0

The taxes have been paid, the ranch was foreclosed on, the principal has probably paid the taxes. Unless you have some proof that Billy paid it

Yes Estrella Ranch partners LLC has paid the taxes for the property

I haven't owned this stock in years but I still get news for some reason. 

Shocked that they're shutting  down Estrella Ranch.  Let's see what this does this week, but I hope for you guys it does not halve the price yet again. Seems Bill continues to do new things, then after boasting how well they are doing, he shuts them down. 

Has he ever paid the past due taxes on Estrella?

this site is acting weird today

What's in Sheridan, Wy?

Sorry, for some reason this thing gave me a new alias. Old is fltunes 

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Billy who

Billy is an inept jackass.

Livewire is on life support in the ICU seeing that a Quarterly Report still has not been released.

Billy says "We are not mindlessly rushing into this revised business model; we have seen the signs for a long time and have been preparing for this change over the past two years"
How about the mindless business model that siphons money off to other "companies" with no knowledge of who they are, why they are getting our money, no interest payments. Before you ahem, "loan money" you pay your property taxes and mortgage
Of course a business model does not work for the stock holders, but it works for Billy.
Quarterlies?
BTW The ranch WAS foreclosed on.

Like the Supertramp song.....Dreamer, you know you are a dreamer

PR states that "Bill" has kept the munny. Change of direction smoke is to: (1) keep hope alive and run ~OUTT the relevant SOLs, and (2)see ifhe can still squeeze more wool from DaSheepthat he has been shearing for years in this pennyscam turd.

Magic 8 Ball sez "Bill" will very likely, almost certainly, keep any and all DaMunny he is able to swindle in Act II of this grift.

More LOSSES and swindling to follow.

That is all.




DaMarket responds to "Bill"'s latest PR gas release




"Bill" has delivered for his baggholders, just like he did when he was a broker - as in he left you broker and with garbage in your account

What’s next After yet another failed business venture and millions of dollars scammed from public investors
less than hundred million shares left of two billion authorize and
LVVV moves head to the next penny stock scam

Livewire is still alive...

GO $LVVV

Ranch sale addressed here.

https://stockwatchindex.com/livewire-ergogenics-energizes-business-in-a-changing-cannabis-world/

I actually made a decent amount of money on two runs (2018 and 2021). Waiting for a 3rd…hopefully this year. I have not lost a single dollar on this stock which is why I love it. That other guy doesn’t know how to trade penny stocks so all he does is cry. Every time I pop by to check on this board, it’s the same people crying. I bet if I leave and come back next year, it’ll be the same 2 people complaining about their bad decisions lol..

Well too bad for you because I know quite a few that held lotto tickets and doing really well and that includes me. This is not my first rodeo but jokes on you. The whole point of lotto stocks is to hold lol cause you sound silly. I come here once in a while to check up. A few days from now I’ll disappear and come back later to see what’s up. At the end of the day, I don’t need the money I have in here lol that’s the difference between me and the few ppl crying here.

😂😂 i’ve never known a person to hold a losing lotto ticket for so long
What was it worth when you bought it and what’s it worth now?

I’ve been here longer than you so the real question is where did you pop up from? Takes a lonely guy to recognize another I suppose Mr popular guy that’s not lonely lol

F Bill Hodson.
Criminal.

Might hear some news soon. Unless I'm wrong the property is no longer listed. LVVV 🤞

You are absolutely right. The funny part is, I’ve been here longer than you. You should check the posts going way back to 2016. You’ll see posts from me. You on the other hand, I’m not sure where you popped up from. Oh look, a normal guy on the internet calling someone lonely. How cute.

Nope, you just exposed yourself of investing in many bad stocks lol. I own many stocks my guy, I don’t have to do multiple write offs unlike someone. I can’t listen to someone that has many other bad stocks to write off lol

I'm not sure where this Krungster10 guy showed up from, but, he's obviously just one of those people that go on the internet to annoy normal people because he is messed up and lonely. You guys are too smart to be baited by that. Ignore him.

You must own one stock. I have over 100 assorted stocks, bonds, etc. Do you think writing off all of the loss in one year makes any sense. Now I see why you still believe in LVVV
Enjoy your back and forth. You are not looking like an investor.

It’s literally just February 2nd. If you were over this stock long long ago as you say, 32 days ago would have been the best time when you could have done this so call tax write off lol… now you expect me to believe you wanted to wait on a dead stock for 11 months just for a write off? I call BS. Take your L if that’s what you wanna call it and quit the crying everyday.

Crying? LMAO I count them as a loss long ago. I am just holding as a write off the end of this year. But you keep dreaming.....still cannot answer any common sense questions, you only name call like a child

My guy, you don’t have to mention any names. That’s how English works. I’m not reading your book lol if you don’t want in anymore you can sell your shares that you claim to own, leave and quit crying like a little girl.

I did not mention you, it was a point after reading the pro, go LVVV posts. It was a generic question. If you see yourself in that post its on you. I was not telling someone how or where to spend her money.
I simply made a statement of wonderment.....“LMAO At what point will those still buying come to the realization that something is off, way off.”
I have to wonder why you have avoided my questions in your responses.
Do you have any concern that there have been no financials since 2024 qtr 2?
Do you have any concern that there are endless loans of millions of dollars that apparently go to, who knows who, with no interest payments or payments coming back?
Do you wonder who that black hole is that's sucking away all that money?
Does any of this concern you?
Yes those are questions you seem to avoid answering but you are stuck on a statement I made. If you truly had money on the table and are not billy boy, wouldn't those questions be bouncing around like a pinball is your head before being so positive?
I know you will not answer as there are no legitimate answers

Go back to your post 75160.

You literally said, and I quote, “LMAO At what point will those still buying come to the realization that something is off, way off.” English may not be my first language but that certainly implies that those that are still buying this stock needs to stop due to said reasons you stated in that post. In my humble opinion, this means that you are worried about what other folks are buying. I have so many other stocks, $lvvv just so happens to be one of my lotto picks and I am keeping my money here until whatever happens, happens.

I actually own 8 million shares still. But I am a realist and I wrote off a bunch last year and will this year. I am not a dreamer like you and BMEL. And again, where am I worried about you? I am simply commenting on the flat earthers, I could care less what you buy or sell. I guess you know that you cannot point out where I am worried about your money so you keep avoiding answering it

I’m literally just responding to you. At least I have shares here, you don’t. So I don’t understand what’s your point? My point is, you are here to complain about a company that I chose to put my money in, concerned about my investments… like why are you worried about my pockets and any other grown men that have their money here?

LMAO in the last 20 posts, I made 3 and you posted 10 .........I understand that you are upset, I would be too. They have meds for that 😡

You are absolutely right lol. This is the internet, I have nothing to prove to you my guy. I’m typing this message on a broken phone using free WiFi lol. What else?

You are still writing books telling another man what to spend their money on lol. Time is money, if you are spending all your time on this so call “worthless” stock page then you clearly aren’t making money.

Krungster10 So you bought millions more of LVVV SHARES!!! Yet you come to the message board asking why the company website is down why come here why don’t you just call the company and talk to the ceo
😂😂😂 probably posting from ithe poor house and can’t afford a dime to make a phone call

For my edification can you tell me where I said how anyone should spend their money. I hear an undertone of despair. Have no fear, I could care less what you do with your money. I was simply espousing wonderment in what people are thinking when they believe the earth is flat. If you see yourself in that, its purely by coincidence. So please find someone else that you can claim is worried about your money.
PS I can sell you some if you want. I will take .01 a share. I am sure that's a buy since you feel so strongly about the stock
PPS My ability to put more than a few sentences together does not make me an author, but if you think I am, maybe you could invest in my first book. The working title is "Pigeons, the art of the stock scam"

And who are you to tell me where to put my money? Did you help me make it? Still writing books to tell another man what to do with his money I see.