SeaBlue
24 hours ago
Here is the article....if you view it and then go back later and to try to view it you might not be able to without signing up.
More posturing. I guess this will continue for a while.
First Mining Goldβs Springpole project reaches regulatory milestone
Staff Writer | December 3, 2024 | 12:38 pm News Canada Gold
First Mining Goldβs (TSX: FF) proposed Springpole gold mine has passed a key milestone following the receipt of a positive conformity determination from the Impact Assessment Agency of Canada (IAAC) for the projectβs final environmental impact statement (EIS).
The Springpole project, located approximately 110 km northeast of the town of Red Lake in northwestern Ontario, represents one of Canadaβs largest undeveloped gold projects, containing proven and probable reserves totalling 3.8 million oz.
The deposit lies under a bay of Springpole Lake. The construction plan β currently under the federal environmental review process β involves building dikes and draining the bay to carve out a pit and access the orebody. Once approved, construction of the 30,000 tonnes-per-day open pit mine is expected to begin in 2027.
According to a prefeasibility study from January 2021, primary mining at Springpole is expected to occur for nine years, resulting in average annual production of 335,000 oz. The remaining three years of its 12-year mine life will be used to process lower-grade stockpile, for average annual production of 287,000 oz.
The final EIS, which was submitted Nov. 4, represents the culmination of two and a half years of consultation and engagement since the draft EIS of May 2022. According to First Mining, the report incorporates over 14 years of research and data collection and includes several optimizations completed since the PFS.
βHaving received the outcome within 30-days of the final EIS being submitted demonstrates the diligence with which we have approached the assessment work and builds confidence in the regulatory process timelines for the project,β First Mining CEO Dan Wilton said in a news release.
The final EIS now enters the technical review phase, during the company will undertake to collaborate with all parties to address questions and comments. This process is expected to conclude in the fourth quarter of 2025.
First Nations seeking input
Last week, a northwest Ontario First Nation group directly downstream of the proposed mine claimed that the final EIS had been submitted by First Mining without any consultation.
In its statement, the Slate Falls Nation said it has been working on an impact assessment led by the Anishinaabe, the group of Indigenous peoples in the Great Lakes region, but has not had the cooperation of the company in completing the study.
The Nation also said the Anishinaabe-led impact assessment is only partially funded by IAAC, and the remainder of the work is being completed without a funding source.
βWe support responsible resource development in our territory,β Delford Mitchell, manager of the Slate Falls Nation lands and resources department, said in a Nov. 26 media statement. βMineral exploration companies visit our community almost every week, and weβre able to understand each other and build really positive relationships.β
Mitchell pointed out that when First Mining submitted its draft environmental assessment in 2002, it made no mention of Slate Falls Nation.
The company has since refuted the claims as βinaccurateβ stating the final EIS report prepared by Ausenco had included consultation with the Nation.
First Mining recently entered into process agreements with two other Anishinaabe communities βthe Cat Lake and Lac Seul First Nations β to support the impact assessment.
Implanting
2 days ago
Thank you very much for sharing that with us here AND especially copying Keith about it. IMO he needs to know and be in the loop. I'm breathing a sigh of relief.
I'll say it again, we know Keith has been against doing a RS, but for some reason (I have no clue why) on Tuesday when I spoke with Paul he gave me the story I've related to the board. He gave so much detail about a possible RS I got the impression it had been kicked around by them already AND
he never said anything about it being off the table. I told him Keith had said we weren't going to have a RS. He knew that, so why his story about a RS is baffling. Maybe he was tired of shareholders bitching about all the outstanding shares balance?
Most of what you talked about with him, I would confirm was told to me. FYI the Duparquet starter pit project is still at least 3 years away. Dan mentioned that in his last interview and Paul confirmed it to me when I asked him about it. I will be pretty surprised that unless we get a deal announced sometime before Q3 2025 that they will be doing another offering. Let's see how that turns out.
I don't know what his response was to your question about doing buybacks, but he never responded to my email inquiry on that subject. I hope to God management is looking after the retail investor here, we're the Ones keeping this ship floating. Nice to get clarification again from the Guy at the top.
Implanting
2 days ago
COminer, that's why it pains me to even talk about any sort of RS. Keith had been rock solid in the past about one NOT being done, so why Paul would even bring it up is baffling to me. I let him know that I was against seeing it done. Other retail shareholders may want to do the same.
I would agree with You that because of the skin management has in the Company that should bode well for good outcomes later on. Keith is a shrewd businessman, so I'm going to continue to stay positive. I would think that after some point, the selling would bottom and most of the shares held would be in strong hands. Where the final bottom is we don't know, but You could be right. I want to see this turn around.
What also concerns me is the stock market is breaking all time highs and our shares are breaking new lows. Not sure if that bodes well for us.
I'll be interested to see if Keith adds more shares today on the open market.
COminer
2 days ago
I know we're trying to move away from the RS discussion, but my $.02 is if MGMT starts to entertain a reverse split, we (retail) may as well mark our investments at $0. They will have already made the decision to send us out to slaughter.
The good news is that MGMT owns a lot of personal shares themselves, so it's prob not in their interest to do that. I don't know if they own a different share class, but I don't think that's the case. I really don't see Keith torching his reputation like that.
You never know with this stuff, though.
I still maintain we will see $0.05/shr before we see $.15/shr. Fun stuff, huh?
Implanting
2 days ago
I couldn't agree more with what you're saying and that's exactly what I told Paul. Why do you need a RS split if you get a deal done? In theory, if the deal is a good deal for us and we're on financially solid footing going forward AND the share dilution can stop, ultimately that's the outcome we want. He also made the point to me that our share price would only rise on the back of a rising tide for the miners. I disagreed by saying if and when we get a deal done that will help our situation out the most. No doubt the big gains will come when the sector takes off, but ya gotta walk before you can run.
He alluded to doing a RS, only AFTER we had very good news come out that would eliminate any negativity about a RS taking place. If I recall correctly Dan tried to float this idea before until Keith put his foot down. How does such a move not fuck the retail investors?
I think in some capacity this has something to do with attempting to get the share price to a level where the institutions can buy in. IMO if we get a deal all that will take care of itself in time. God knows many of us can wait a little longer for that to come. I'm beginning to wonder if I'll be around to see this investment pay off.
P.S.: I meant to ask Paul when I talked to him about them doing another webinar maybe before year end on where we stand with FN's,the EA getting final approval, etc. and of course I didn't get around to asking about it. If Dan was on the ball he would do it.
Implanting
3 days ago
God, here's I hope the final thing I have to say on this subject with a RS.
Management wants to get more institutional investors/money coming into our shares. He mentioned that to me. Obviously with the share price down at these depressed prices, institutions can't buy in, so even at some point in the future, most likely after a deal gets done that may not matter, depending on how high our share price can run after the deal is made.
What price do our shares have to be for institutions to buy in? I'm not sure and I didn't ask Paul what the number has to be, but that's obviously another source they want to tap in the future. The problem I have with that line of thinking are you going to sacrifice the RETAIL investors that have been so loyal to you over the years by doing a RS and fucking them, just to open up the institutional money? I hope not. I wouldn't see Keith doing it, but getting to that institutional money may be the biggest reason for this RS talk. More speculation on my part.
Implanting
3 days ago
Seablue, I was watching TV the other day around the date Trudope was paying homage to Trump down at Mar Lago. They were interviewing a Talking Head, I think he was Canadian, that was saying Trudope is on his way out. He was saying Trudope had an approval rating worse than Shit-for-brains Joe B., so you know that's low. I laughed when I listened to this Guy bash him.
When they get him out and most of his ilk, maybe the mining sector in Canada can make a comeback.
TommyJ7651
3 days ago
With regards to Paul, I think he is being quite careful what he can say publicly to investors. There are legal issues/aspects to every single question he will answer. It's just the way it is, so I sort of understand why he talks like a politician in this regard. Not saying anything directly and leaving many things up for the investor to figure out. It's frustrating as investors but that's just the way these IR people talk. Like we have seen they have removed a few interviews where I guess they felt they said "too much" although I don't think they did. It's just that these people have to be super careful about what they say or even imply to investors because you can be sued for everything and the regulators are always watching what companies are doing in this regard. And the fines for breaking these rules can be very severe for a still small company like FFMG.
With regards to Dan, sure we are very much entitled as shareholder to criticize him or any other members of the management team in that regard. I was mainly trying to point out that this bear market in juniors and developers has been really brutal in it's severity and many companies have gone bust. I don't think even the best CEO on the planet could really have done much since capital has been so scarce. Basically, as I see it, you could have stalled with the permitting progress and have a lot fewer shares outstanding right now. Could this have been a better option? To wait for sentiment to turn around and only then start fresh with more capital available? Maybe, none of us have a crystal ball so we really cannot know. I think the choice they made to push forward and get the permit work over with was a very brave thing to do seeing as it costs a shit load of money to do it. The fact that they were able to raise the money needed to get Springpole now almost EA permitted tells me we do have a talented team in place and lots of committed shareholders (and Keith) who are willing to see this story to the end. That is what still makes me very comfortable with this story. Yes, it has been frustrating as hell to watch our share go down for 8 years while the Nasdaq and AI stock etc. are partying like never before. But the reward will still be worth the wait in my mind. Keith has made many millionaires during his career and the dude has an insane track record in an industry where you really cannot survive unless you are savvy and stubborn as hell.
I think we are going to get a "switch" at some point here soon in the major markets and something will cause sentiment to turn in the entire mining space. History tells us this will happen because this is not the first time the mining sector has been hated. With the EA permit now on the clock and Duparquet growing into 10m ounces we are getting closer every day. Anyone with a working brain can already see how much potential we have here. We could be very well sitting on a very big new gold miner here in the making.
Implanting
3 days ago
We know share dilution is going to happen, that's the only way these mining companies survive. What we need is a good custodian of how many shares are being issued. I see that as Dan's job. IMO Dan doing a good job in that regard is up for debate. Paul told me Tuesday we have 1.1 billion shares outstanding currently. I assume that number's correct.
Keith has said on multiple occasions that there would be no reverse stock splits and I took that as gospel, so why Paul brought it up to me when I talked to him on Tuesday is not clear. I'm not holding millions of FMG shares and don't want to see any sort of share consolidation, unless by doing so it benefits shareholders financially. I expect Keith to keep his word on that.
I don't know how long a deal is going to take to get done and I want to get the best deal possible, but IMO nothing short of an upturn in the miners will change this story. I want to see a deal get done BEFORE the Springpole EA is approved. That should be achievable.
As far as criticizing Dan's job performance, I think that's what shareholders should do, within reason.
TommyJ7651
3 days ago
There will be no reverse stock splits. Keith has made this very clear many times already. He said it could be theoretically possible in some very unique situation where a major comes in and he is absolutely convinced it is in the shareholders best interest to do so. Other than that it is not going to happen, ever. He is the largest shareholder in the company and it would be very foolish to think he is not in control when the major decisions are made. FFMG is after all his "darling" as he calls it. The leadership are just people he has put in place to transform his vision of the company into reality. And we are getting closer every day.
I actually think it is very unjust how much heat you guys give Dan and his team for diluting shareholders. What would you have done in their shoes as CEO during this very brutal bear market? Not issue any shares for many years and thereby stall all progress in the company's assets? They have made it very clear from the beginning that the goal was to have the assets ready in the portfolio when the industry needs them the most, which is right now. They chose to push forward at a time when capital was super scarce in the industry. It's really a miracle they were even able to come this far when lots of developers and juniors have basically gone bankrupt during the same period. Had the market conditions been favorable then most likely we would have been bought out already. But unfortunately they were not so here we are. These are just things out of our control.
Also, I have yet to see a single shareholder here give credit to Dan for raising 60m dollars in non-dilutive financing from the portfolio. You know how many share issuances that saved us? Hundreds of millions of shares most likely. It's not like they have not tried to be as non-dilutive as they can when considering all financing options. Developers have no revenues so equity financing is a guaranteed reality for almost any company such as FFMG. Believe me I am not any more happy than you guys with how many rounds of financing we have done, but I have also bought more shares every single time they have issued stock. That is what Keith, Dan and all the rest of the insiders have done over the years and that is what you should also do as an long term investor to keep up. You should buy more all the time if you really believe in this company and bring down your average cost. I don't really know of any other way to invest in developers because the timeline is always the biggest unknown assuming you even have worthwhile portfolio to begin with.
I don't think investors here really appreciate how super hard this bear market has been on the entire industry. Like I really don't know what they could have done better. Either they would have stalled and stopped all permitting work, but that has costs too. Somebody needs to run the company any way in some form and that requires money. I think - as a quite large shareholder myself - that the way Dan has led this company has been the right way to do it. Believe me, Keith would have fired Dan long ago if he had any doubts about what management was doing. It's no like Keith is just investing millions of dollars into a company and let's management do what they like. He is a guy who likes to get shit done and wants results, so there is no room for any half-ass CEOs in FFMG as long as Keith is in charge.
Implanting
4 days ago
I think you're making a valid point about them buying back company shares if and when a deal finally gets done. IMO part of whatever cash windfall that we get from a bigger fish should go for that. There should be no reason for that not to happen. I don't know if we could structure a deal with a potential partner so they buy some of our FMG outstanding shares? That might be something worth exploring too.
Paul Harris is the IR person. He's also Keith's personal friend and he told me just yesterday that he in some capacity a part (in what capacity I don't know) with First Majestic and also First Quantum. He did some stockbroker work before he came onboard here. What he is costing the Company, I can't say, but he also is Dan's right-hand man in getting the word out about the Company. I know he does Company presentations himself at some of these conferences. I personally like Paul; he's a hard worker and when I contact him, he comes back to me quickly. That's more than I can say for some of his predecessors. IMO Paul is by far the best IR person this company has hired. If I had to guess, Keith hired Paul personally.
I would suggest You call and speak with him if you haven't already. Tell him about your company share buyback idea. I didn't bring it up when I spoke to him. He'll try to answer your questions to the best of his ability, but how much he knows about what's going on behind closed doors, I can't say. My guess
would be he knows more than he'll let on.
Implanting
4 days ago
IMO Dan had the bright idea to do these deals with our other properties, most likely thinking we could sell them for a profit later down the road. In theory it was a good idea, but unfortunately for the Company currently these assets aren't worth very much. Much like our share price.
I think probably the best asset FMG has is the balance, I believe it's 30%, of Pickle Crow. IMO they could get some significant cash for that asset. How much that would be is anyone's guess, but if they're serious about stopping the share dilution that would be the first thing they look into selling.
Implanting
4 days ago
Your feeling about doing a reverse stock split is duly noted. That's also something that came up in my Paul conversation yesterday. He made the comment to me that under the right circumstances that Keith might consider doing a reverse split. I immediately told him I was against a rev.split under any circumstances. That's something Keith has harped on for a long time now, NO, reverse splits. IMO this is someone trying to get into Keith's ear, most likely Dan.
Paul tried to spin it to me that if AFTER we get a deal with someone that makes FMG financially secure that doing a rev. split wouldn't be perceived as a desperate move for the Company. We would have a deal in hand and it would be clear to the Street we're a going concern. My contention is if and when we get a deal that should solve our dilution problems, because we should not have to continue with these offerings. I hope Keith stands by his word on not doing a reverse split regardless of the circumstances. Why can't we structure a deal with someone that would have the partner buying up a portion of our outstanding shares? That could be part of a JV deal you would think.
Concerning Judy Shelton, I have not heard anything about her joining Trump's team YET. I've seen her making the media rounds recently because she came out with a new book and is out promoting it. I would love to see Trump put her in Powell's seat when his time is up in May of 2026.
Implanting
5 days ago
Just got off the phone with Paul in IR. I didn't feel like he told me very much after we were through, but I'll share what we talked about.
My main question was around further share dilution going forward and this was his response. He said he thought we were good to go through 2025 before they would have to do another offering. I personally have my doubts about that being the case. I didn't ask him how much we have in the bank, but I don't think it will get us through all of 2025. He told me they are discussing ways to raise cash without more share dilution, like selling stakes in some of the other
holdings we still have like Big Ridge, Pickle Crow and Nexgold. This has been a standard response from Paul about this in the past and until some of those assets go up in value, they're the same as FMG....grossly undervalued. If they sold some of those, IMO they wouldn't get much for them right now. IMO it doesn't make a lot of sense to sell when they're not worth much.
The biggest thing I took from our conversation is when I asked him at what point in time he thought the FMG share price would start moving up? His response was basically that when the mining sector begins moving, so would our share price. Hmmm, I said what about if we get a deal done before that happens and he told me he thought our share price needed to be at higher levels from where it is now BEFORE a deal gets done. That answer surprised me and implied to me that a deal may not be as close as what I had hoped for. I think he was trying to tell me we'll get a much better offer is our share price isn't down at these depressed levels.
I didn't get to ask him about the Cat Lake or FN issues, but I suspect I know what his response would have been.
Implanting
5 days ago
Yeah, it's good, but I think what it represents is that the EA is in the stove and still has some cooking to do. I say that because in this last Crux interview Dan made the comment about how now that the EA has been submitted, his expectations were that it would be approved by the end of 2025. That may be more wishful thinking on his part.
Dan said that any questions or issues that came up during this examination period would STOP THE CLOCK on the process moving forward. In other words, depending on how timely they resolve problems through the course of the EA approval this could take longer than expected. What those potential problems might be is up in the air, but let's hope Steve Lines and his people are nimble enough to minimize the hold ups and get the job done on time.
Implanting
5 days ago
I try to base my "guesses" on what I hear coming out of Dan's mouth in some of these interviews he does. Having said that things can change, and I wouldn't expect Dan to be fully forth coming about what might be going on behind closed doors.
As I said in a prior post, in this last interview it seemed Dan's focus was that Springpole was the JV deal property and that Duparquet was not. Is that the course our Management want to take? Who knows, but that was certainly the way it sounded to me. I suppose if the right partnership was reached even Duparquet could be partnered with, but maybe their goal is to retain it for ourselves? We should have the money to move Durparquet forward AFTER a deal is done at Springpole.
Keith may see Duparquet as being a blue sky type asset with more resource upside in a better jurisdiction would be my guess. If I heard Dan correctly in this last interview he said it might be 3 years before they got something going with a high grade, starter-pit mine at Duparquet, that timeline might be moved up if we got a partner, but if Dan expects to do it in 3 years, my guess it would be 4 or 5 years from most of his past timelines being met.