hedge_fun
1 day ago
Of course all have wrecks have differences…..but
the projects SFRX has undertaken have some similar characteristics,
They were all projects that were worked for many years by professionals and determined to be worthless. This was long before SFRX became involved. The Melbourne project began in 2000, and SFRX took over in 2014.
When SFRX becomes involved the hype starts about there (ahem) potentially being billions of dollars on these sites, along with a lot of other baseless statements not only made by the company, but also longs on message boards.
It’s not that SFRX can’t ID the wreck at Juno, they can’t even ID any valuable galleon that sunk in the area EVER!
A multi-billion dollar wreck would be the largest find in history. It’s not a wreck that would lost to time, but an affiliate here says the Juno wreck was, and Spain just hasn’t found the documentation that’s likely hidden in a closet in Seville.
As far as my earlier post, in the promo Kyle said in Sept 2020 that they had multiple targets from their Super Duper Treasure Finder but were waiting on the permits to get resolved so they could verify the targets, and the permits got resolved a month or so later.
One would ASSume those targets would be treasure based on the company’s claims and reason for developing the device.
In Dec 2020, shortly after having permits in place, they went to the ring area and pulled up fittings from an unidentified wreck without the state’s permission and eventually were told to STOP working the site until further notice.
The device gave them targets that a mag could give them, but were told it’s a game changer.
They say they can’t wait to PROVE TO THE WORLD the device works, so they recover worthless artifacts without permission and violated their permits they whined about having to wait on?
The carpet ain’t matching the drapes!
Happy Monday!
hedge_fun
4 days ago
I appreciate you admitting Kyle misled investors…
and potential investors, but you’re attempting to rewrite history once again.
This was something that was repeated for about 3 years. The base of a hill comment was added later.
July 2016…..we’re on the wreck.
July 2019……we’re on the wreck. This was the mention of it being at the base of a hill. Too bad the Stock Day Media promos are no longer available.
From NOAD discussing “the wreck” in 2019.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=150193179
George was touting the wood you’re referring to as well in his July 2019 promo saying it was from “the ship.” It’s being discussed here.
George even said "we have found large wooden features of the ship already" at the 7:40 mark. That wasn't new information. If it was supposed to be, he did a piss poor job communicating it.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=150201050
It was all bullshit just like what you’re now claiming.
Well, it wasn't "the wreck" but maybe just section of it. Most people, as in all but a couple, realizing the situation, got over it quickly.
Yeah, 3 years is quickly.
You’re a good fit with SFRX.
Happy Friday!
#notevenatrinket
Goldenboy17
4 days ago
RC, Trippy the Trinket Troll is not so good at admitting to his many many false claims over the years.
But he is good at distorting information to make it seem like something it is not.
For instance. Several years ago, pretty sure at Melbourne, the divers came across large curved sections of the hull of a ship that appeared to be of the right time period, many feet in length and at the base of a shelf on the site. Excited with this information, Kyle said in an interview or somewhere that they believed, based on these large sections of the hull, their size, age, shape and placement, that they must be on the wreck. Sounded like good news but not overly important. And it was information Kyle thought accurate at the time.
Well, it wasn't "the wreck" but maybe just section of it. Most people, as in all but a couple, realizing the situation, got over it quickly.
Yet this became the basis for an often repeated complaint against Kyle that he purposely lied about it. As though Trippy can read minds and knows intent. For years, over and over Trippy shouts from the rooftops about how important and vital this is to his complaints about Kyle and Seafarer. How it's "proof" of Kyle's evil plan to not get paid from a job for 12 years.
This example really sums up all of Trippy's claims about Seafarer which all pretty much fall into 1 of 3 categories:
1. True but not of any value or significance.
2. Distorted or half truth - technically true but the missing info not mentioned reverses or grossly changes it's meaning.
3. False.
I keep him on ignore for a reason. He is of no value to any shareholders.
Will he ever post anything useful and accurate?
It's rhetorical.
😅
hedge_fun
4 days ago
Did Weber tell investors, “we’re on the……
wreck” when they obviously were not? Kyle said they were in 2016. He later said it came to rest at the base of a hill, but the Bureau reports contradict those claims.
When Weber found the motherlode, wasn’t it on the ballast pile, just like the Atocha?
Where do you think treasure was stowed on a galleon?
As I have said REPEATEDLY, the mag survey SFRX used was from 2004, and the site was examined. It was a dud then and a dud now. I have NEVER not mentioned that.
Extensive exploration has been done at Juno dating back to the late ‘80’s.
SFRX said they have scanned and gridded a 300’ x 300’ area. Where’s the treasure?
Before Dr. Baer passed away he said they scanned Juno with the SeaSearcher and they were waiting on the data. SFRX was the source of that information. If the device works, where’s the treasure?
Listen around the 10:45 mark. Dr. Baer says they were waiting on the data.
They keep scanning and aren’t pulling up jack shit. What does that tell you?
It’s rhetorical.
RC_702
4 days ago
Hedge stated ….
“I really don't think the critics could have…..
done it without all of the bluster, bullshit, incompetence, misinformation, the company and others have posted or released.“
Were you referring to your misinformation about repeatedly pretending that you knew all about the technology? Computer software?
Or misinformation about how you used the scan report by not mentioning that it was over twenty years old? That no targets were ever examined? That targets around 3-4 pounds were not documented?
Or, that the company is amateurs because they have not written any yet. That nothing has been written about them. Yet, the first book on Weber was written twenty two years after he started diving. It’s interesting that they missed the famous wreck, he speculated that they floated right over it. Only when they got the critical information did they go back and find it. I was surprised to find out that the cannons were demagnetized and bronze so they were not picked up by their sensors.
Is this what you were referring to hedge?
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2 weeks ago
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Raider21
2 weeks ago
Quote: How many books did he write before he found his first treasure?
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Webber didn't write books although I know he has written short historical articles (shipwrecks) for archaeological quarterly's. Its not what he writes but rather what other's write about him.
Ranging from 1961 to 2024, Webber received 55 publication and documentary credits. I have a copy of all of these as were contained in a past Operational Research Plan.
Yes all you did was cut and paste from an article, but you were deliberately selective to minimize any credit to him. Anyone can Google him and multiple multiple articles, references, etc. come up including Time Magazine, etc.
Raider21
2 weeks ago
Quote: Here's another referencing hydraulic jacks, saws and explosives used to cut through crust at the silver Banks. Did radar trash sfrx for the same use excluding explosives. Pretty sure he posted he was one of the divers. Tracy Bowden and the Dolphin recovery ship rediscovered another area after Weber. "The underwater archeology digital archive"
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It would be nice if you could get your facts straight. There is nothing wrong with using the application of hydraulic jacks, saws and even explosives when applied with very light charges for dead coral fragmentation. I've been to Silver Bank and dove a number of shipwrecks there. There is no 'Crust' as you put it. So the point is I never trashed SFRX for using these mentioned tools. Please copy and paste where I did.
When SeaQuest International (Webber) terminated excavations on the 'Concepcion' in 1979, years later under a written contract Webber introduced Capt. Bowden to the site and working on a low budget with Dominican divers, he worked the scatter trail off and on for years with successful results. All of this is covered in the book I mentioned 'Bajo del Mar' by Arq. Pedro Borrell (In Spanish).
For me, I'm more interested in reading about SFRX successes as written by credited authors. Please provide me with the links.
Raider21
2 weeks ago
You don't give up do you chatterbox. You are obviously on a persistent mission to divert attention from MEXP being the failure of a treasure hunting company that they are.
As to Burt Webber, if you are so intrigued with him why don't you buy his biography 'A Master on the Spanish Main' by T. L. Armstrong. In the course of his career while working under exclusive contracts in the Dominican Republic, besides discovering the 1641 'Nuestra Senora de la Concepcion', he and his team discovered approximately 26 shipwrecks most of which were of the Spanish Colonial period. Three major TV networks documentaries were made featuring Webber including 'The Lost Treasure of the Concepcion' a CBS special at the time.
Approximately one month ago the new book was released 'Bajo del Mar' by Arq. Pedro Borrell, retired Executive Director of the Dominican Republic Submarine Archaeological Recovery Commission which photographically, with text, documents all under contract shipwreck discoveries in Dominican waters, most of which were Webber's. Now with that said (and most definitely verifiable) please cite published shipwreck discoveries and excavation / recoveries by SFRX, along with answering the questions I presented to you which you continue to sweep under the rug. As the saying goes, you are really a class act but to what purpose?
The first book written about Webber was 'The Lost Treasure of the Concepcion' The Story of One of the World's Greatest Treasure Finds and Burt Webber - the Man Who Never Gave Up. by John Grissim. William Morrow Publishing, N.Y. You trying to demean Webber, you sure picked on the wrong guy.
RC_702
2 weeks ago
Here’s part of Bert Weber’s history:
“Burt was part of a dozen expeditions in the Caribbean, without having any luck in finding treasure. During this time he also got married and had four children. He worked part time jobs as a brickmaker, welder and (successful) encyclopedia salesman.
Burt worked with another Florida treasure hunter, Jack Goin Haskins. Haskins became his researcher, travelling on an annual basis to the Archives of the Indies in Seville. Haskins found a lot of information about the Nuestra Señora de la Concepciòn.
Webber spent ten years searching - on an intermittent basis, for the Atocha, but was beaten by Mel Fisher. After this, Burt returned to Annville, where his wife Sandy and their four children lived. For two years he worked in a brick factory, and also sold encyclopedias.“
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