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TightCoil TightCoil 2 hours ago
You wrote:
"If I have to tell you why your not paying attention."
But you should have written:
If I have to tell you why you're not paying attention.
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Guido2 Guido2 5 hours ago
Please click on the link for rest of the message to open.

pic.twitter.com/1hdi5idy97— I Am (@TheYuckyOne) July 18, 2024
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stink stack stink stack 9 hours ago
Exciting time to be holding FNF! If I have to tell you why your not paying attention.
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krab krab 10 hours ago
JB is negotiating for golden parachute payment, possible settlement by Monday. The Covid-19 is just an meaningless excuse to push away
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juicyjuice10002 juicyjuice10002 11 hours ago
JB is out. Trump and verdict are in. Time for judge to ignore what JB and treasury wanted who are history now. Will see big upside in AM as soon as JB gets out.
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RickNagra RickNagra 14 hours ago
Highly recommend this new report out today from @PubEnterprise about how a national housing construction fund could ease this major pain point in the homebuilding industry https://t.co/mbij33xKDY— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) July 18, 2024
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QueenVic QueenVic 15 hours ago
...Maybe his chamber 🍲 left him in the GREEN towards the end of the day! 🎁
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TightCoil TightCoil 15 hours ago
FMCC in the GREEEN - FNMA almost there - FIGHT BACK
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zxjoshuaxz zxjoshuaxz 16 hours ago
Back in the green!
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QueenVic QueenVic 16 hours ago
Elmer Hasenpfeffer duly career is to pretend that he's busy-working so hard to digest his wabbit stew.
Chick-fil-A irritated him. Constipation and IBS delays his train of 🤔 thought...
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DaJester DaJester 16 hours ago
You know what that makes Kthomp? Yep... A hypocrite yet again!
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nagoya1 nagoya1 16 hours ago
Huh- a gse court case answered from sludge lameazz this week ? If there are molasses next to him, the molasses will come in first before this dinosaur starts to move.
He’s been purposely dragging his butt to slow the gse judicial process.
Don’t expect anything until Halloween and of course leaning and accommodating to the govrats. Fnma
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Wise Man Wise Man 17 hours ago
A clueless Millstein ignores that FnF are statutory corporations, which means that everything is decided, controlled and required by law, even during Conservatorship that preserves their status.
Clueless about everything that has happened surrounding FnF.
$435B of Capital siphoned off to the UST is pending to be accounted for in their Equity.
The financial rehabilitation doesn't commence 16 years after the Conservatorship began.

First, clueless with a comparison with AIG.

Then, he is another investor asking for more LIHTC tax credits from Congress. Very costly. Besides tax credits for 10 years, there is a 70% subsidy on the entire Housing development.

Their congressional charters only allow them to purchase residential mortgages, not contruction loans. Yet, he insists that the FHFA can allow it, simply, including it in the Capital Rule. And during Conservatorship, just with an agreement FHFA-UST. Another lawyer that can't understand that "restriction" means PROHIBITION.

Also, FnF don't subsidize the mortgage rates.

I was the first person to promote the utilization of FnF to invest in construction loans, but with the adjusted Capital levels under the Separate Account plan that I track every quarter.
September 2021:
Affordable Housing is about construction.
Now, excess Capital. FnF can take on more risk➡️developers. Charter revoked.
Nowadays, in overtime, with the case of redemption of JPS, Freddie Mac would meet full Capital Buffers and Fannie Mae about half of it, plus the case of amortization into Earnings of their Deferred Income (the upfront g-fee is recorded as Debt) in one fell swoop: Freddie Mac would net $32B (after taxes) in the Retained Earnings account, and Fannie Mae, $15B, net, and they can take on more credit risk, like purchases of construction loans, at least Freddie Mac.
But first of all, the Charters have to be revoked.
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DaJester DaJester 17 hours ago
"The LP ratchet itself is in place as a return consideration to Treasury for allowing FnF to keep their net worth"

In consideration for keeping $1, you will owe us $1 in liquidation preference, and you will pay us 10% dividend on it at a time we determine, and until we say otherwise. Why not say in consideration of $1 you owe me $10. That's not really valid consideration either unless you are a loan shark.

Does that not sound like a breach of good faith and fair dealing? Sounds AWEFULLY similar to the last breach which was you make a $1 you owe us $1....
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DaJester DaJester 17 hours ago
"The thing is, one result of the jury verdict is that FnF have now been essentially indemnified from any further frustrations of shareholders' ability to profit from their investment."

Wholly incorrect. One infraction of a contract does not entitle the breaching party to further violate the contract because now "the other party should expect it" as you seem to imply. There was no contract remedy, which means the language in the shareholder contract was not updated as a result of the Lamberth ruling. All expectations on both sides of the shareholder agreement remain intact.
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blownaccount9 blownaccount9 17 hours ago
Do we expect a Lamberth opinion by the end of the week? I don’t recall how long after both arguments are made he usually takes to render a decision
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DaJester DaJester 17 hours ago
"I highly doubt the lawyers who drafted the original SPSPAs would have included a commitment fee on the funding commitment if it were so obviously illegal."

In that case, why hasn't the commitment fee ever been decided or implemented? Would have been a heck of a lot easier to make the backstop official, charge the fee and move on years ago. The whole purpose of the SPS dividends is to circumvent the restriction on fees. Make it look like something else, so it can't be challenged as a fee. I'm not going to post a link to the Charter Act, I'm sure you are familiar enough to know better.

"I trust their judgment far more than the armchair lawyers on this board."

Ha! Does that include yourself? Or you are just above everyone else. LOL!!!
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TightCoil TightCoil 17 hours ago
Keep Fighting!
Fight for what is Right!
Shareholders have been swindled out of the value of our shares!
Let's Fight to Right the Wrong done to US. Fight, Fight, Fight
These are Fighting Words!
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DaJester DaJester 17 hours ago
"Your unwillingness to take Treasury's words at face value doesn't extend to him"

Treasury's words? Treasury, nor any representation of Treasury has officially made any such claim. Or do you mean a specific person? Does that specific person have the legal knowledge to make the claim? And was the quote that they "think" it's illegal or are they stating that IT IS ILLEGAL? These are not equivalent statements. That's the problem with your hearsay argument. "Reporting' that someone told you what hey "think" does not in any way mean that what you were told has a legal basis.

You and I both know the logical fallacy you are making. But keep beating your chest on it, I'm sure someone will think you are right.
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DaJester DaJester 17 hours ago
"It said that FHFA can use its power to act in its own interest to override other duties HERA imposes on FHFA, like their obligation to conserve and preserve FnF's assets."

SCOTUS said FHFA is legally entitled to that action, much like the Govt can run a highway through your yard. It is not illegal to do so. Did the SCOTUS also say that there is no repercussions? If so, the Lamberth verdict is in jeopardy.
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DaJester DaJester 17 hours ago
"They took a downgrade in that deal because $1 of LP is worth less than $1 of cash, even if you don't take the time value of money into account."

This depends greatly on what happens later. If Treasury gets 10% dividend on the LP for an unknown amount of time, and they later get to redeem the original $1, then clearly they are getting more than the $1 in cash.

"The FnF situation does not even come close to applying to any other company out there. Stop acting as if it does."

Wait, what? I'm pretty sure I'm the one who keeps saying this is a unique situation. I'm not the one comparing it to AIG or Citi, or numerous meetings on the 60th floor somewhere irrelevant. I'm basing my opinions on the unusual circumstances that got us here.

Again, I must refer you to your own words "you are a hypocrite."
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Guido2 Guido2 17 hours ago
Please make it retroactive to September 2008 when @FHFA put Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac in a fraudulent “temporary” conservatorship and then proceeded to swindle $301 billion of their equity for socialist causes not funded by Congress.

FREE FANNIE!
FREE FREDDIE!— Guido da Costa Pereira (@GuidoPerei) July 18, 2024
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Guido2 Guido2 18 hours ago
Thanks for the link. But appears to be another scam to swindle Fannie and Freddie. Also, I think Congress would need to amend their charters.
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RickNagra RickNagra 18 hours ago
Oh wow great find. Thanks for sharing.

The plan could proceed even under the conservatorship of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, requiring administrative action and cooperation between Treasury and FHFA. Millstein believes there’s growing momentum to end conservatorship and enable these companies to operate more independently, facilitating this ambitious housing initiative.
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stockanalyze stockanalyze 18 hours ago
anyone has any opinion on small caps? bullish? bearish? why? thank you
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zxjoshuaxz zxjoshuaxz 18 hours ago
"Millstein believes there’s growing momentum to end conservatorship and enable these companies to operate more independently, facilitating this ambitious housing initiative."

https://lumida.com/guggenheims-bold-plan-how-millions-of-new-homes-could-be-built/
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JOoa0ky JOoa0ky 18 hours ago
"In an interview on the Odd Lots podcast, Millstein lays out a new approach that leverages the unique capacity of the government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) known as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, to jumpstart the production of affordable apartments and other multifamily projects."

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/private-equity/guggenheims-millstein-has-a-plan-to-build-millions-of-us-homes

No access to article but the podcast is available:

Important point to note: Jim Milstein was the Chief RESTRUCTURING officer at treasury.

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RickNagra RickNagra 18 hours ago
Breaking news. Great news. Awesome really. I’m getting a warm and fuzzy feeling we are about to turn green and set a new unbelievable HOD. And no HOD does not stand for High on Drugs.
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RickNagra RickNagra 19 hours ago
Same manipulator from yesterday at it again today. How rude and disrespectful. Disgusting really. Some people just have no manners.
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RickNagra RickNagra 19 hours ago
FNMAS taking a big dump today. Good. That Kershner caused a lot of trouble for us yesterday. He needs a swift boot to the head.
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RickNagra RickNagra 19 hours ago
Calling all whales STAT.
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EternalPatience EternalPatience 20 hours ago
80 % smart

19%. No comment

1% SREZ
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jog49 jog49 20 hours ago
Don't issue degrees of worthlessness in your statement. There's been nobody at Treasury or FHFA worth a damn since this whole clusterf**k started. Every last one of them are/were spineless automatons. And, FHFA is an artificial bureaucracy of 700+ people that should never even exist; sucking money that could go to a beneficial cause in the country.
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Guido2 Guido2 21 hours ago
A few years ago, when the ratio was 5 commons to a preferred (par $25) I converted a major portion of my preferred to buy more commons. I mentioned it on this board. KT was one of a few that ridiculed me. I doubt he’ll ever develop any COMMON sense.
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Guido2 Guido2 21 hours ago
80% = smart. 20% = no comment.
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trunkmonk trunkmonk 21 hours ago
I think everyone should consider different sources of information, not to be influenced by less than honest hidden agendas.
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DaJester DaJester 21 hours ago
"Especially in the light of incentives: converting the SPS gives Treasury far more of what they want than writing them down does."

We are just going to disagree on this whole "it's illegal to write down the LP" issue. You see the above as a reason for them to be telling the truth. I see it as the reason they may be giving misinformation.

If you feel Calabria's statement of What Treasury Thinks™ is important, then good for you. I see it as a recollection of a statement in a conversation. A statement in a conversation is not the law.
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DaJester DaJester 21 hours ago
"Even I would sell some juniors to buy commons if the prices diverged enough. The FNMAS:FNMA ratio hit 4.0 today; if it goes much higher I probably will do just that"

Well, that may be your best argument yet for everyone to root for Preferreds! Let's get to 5:0+ so Kthomp will join us in Common!

"The 6.8% figure depends pretty heavily on if you're buying the most liquid series (FNMAS, FMCKJ), the least liquid (usually the 5-letter ones starting with FMCC), or somewhere in between."

Liquidity doesn't matter much if I don't plan to sell. I'm holding for them to be redeemed, or for dividends to turn back on - those are my expected end-games for preferred. Currently FNMAM, FNMAK, FNMAJ, FMCCO, FMCCT if you care to know. If divvys are resumed, I will be in the 90-100% dividend yield range (vs cost basis) and will hold them for that reason. I will sell Common in stages when/if they reach my targets, and hold some for possible future dividends.

"I suppose that depends on what you define "winning" to be. If the juniors outperform the common you would lose relative to owning only juniors and no commons. But differences of opinion are what make a market."

Winning is relative to what else I could be doing with my money. My goal is to double my money every 4 years (18%), minimum performance expectation is 7 years (10.5%). I'm in my 6th year of accumulating and thus far Common are not meeting my minimum, only up 40% with averaging down, but I have already exceeded 100% return on all my JPS. I treat the GSEs as a single investment however, and it's their combined performance that I'm monitoring. I originally got into FNMA in 2013, but exited that same year as I didn't like my forecasts. Decided to come back in 2018 as I thought release was more imminent. Clearly it wasn't.
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RickNagra RickNagra 21 hours ago
Oh wow. Another crappy day.
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Sammy boy Sammy boy 21 hours ago
NYCB baby ! Pay attention !
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Freddie bagholder Freddie bagholder 23 hours ago
Sandra is like a clueless security service agent we saw.
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EternalPatience EternalPatience 24 hours ago
Which is why 80% of the folks have him blocked..

Duhhh
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Wise Man Wise Man 1 day ago
Controversial case Wazee II that D.Thompson abruptly seized control of, is postponed until July 29th with regard to the Defendant's response.
https://www.docketbird.com/court-cases/Wazee-Street-Opportunities-Fund-IV-LP-et-al-v-The-Federal-Housing-Finance-Agency-et-al/paed-2:2018-cv-03478
How did we get here?
Justice Alito can't make laws and his "path of rehabilitation" of the Federal government isn't taken into consideration, because the ones in conservatorship are FnF, not the government.

It turns out that no other than the DOJ co-signed a brief in Wazee II (a satellite case because Hamish Hume had Wazee I in the Court of Federal Claims with judge Sweeney), a case in a district court of Pennsylvania (something unprecedented, because it's a case against the FHFA, where the UST is a "shadow defendant", like in the Lamberth court, hidden under the bed that has never showed up before, in order to allow that a case against the U.S. government can continue in low-level District courts, with judges more easy to be influenced by the stakeholders (Wall Street and its celebrities on Twitter), when that's precisely the reason why the Court of Federal Claims was established), a brief requiring the attorney Hamish Hume to either:
(a) amend the complaint if the claim isn't sustained under the Supreme Court's Collins "decision" (opinion), or
(b) to voluntarily dismiss the case.

The attorney Hamish Hume did both at the same time. Huh?
-He voluntarily dismissed his other case, Wazee I, and thus, relinquishing the scheduled appeal two days later, clearly influenced by the the DOJ's signature in the brief (all the images are posted below). He got spooked in the only case that challenged the ongoing NWS 2.0.

-He allowed the attorney for Fairholme, the almighty David Thompson, to seize control of this case Wazee II, and file himself the scheduled amended complaint on July 1st, because he didn't like how Hamish Hume was challenging the NWS 2.0 that will be commented next, and instead, now with a claim "sustained by the Supreme Court's Collins decision" where he was a party, and he copy/pasted his same flawed stance he is peddling since: The ongoing NWS 2.0 is wonderland, and he even sought constitutional damages because the "for cause" removal restriction prevented it from happening sooner, firing Mel Watt before:
The UST gets rich with gifted SPS LP and, at the same time, FnF are being recapitalized with retained earnings.
A bunch of lies based on the Financial Statement fraud in the enterprises that don't post on their Balance Sheets neither the SPS LP increased for free, nor the offset with reduction of Retained Earnings account, that would prove that FnF are not building regulatory capital and the only one that is being rehabilitated is the Federal government (Justice Alito's spin that isn't taken into consideration), as stated, precisely, by the attorney Hamish Hume in the Court of Federal Claims with Wazee I, before the voluntary dismissal:
FnF start building their Net Worth, while also providing that 100% of that Net Worth would be owned solely by Treasury.

The attorney Hamish Hume got spooked by the signature of a DOJ attorney and he has disappeared from the two cases he was handling, Wazee I and also Wazee II because, although he wasn't expelled like other attorneys in the case and all the plaintiffs other than Wazee, he hasn't signed the amended complaint filed by the attorney David Thompson on the scheduled date, July 1st.
Hamish Hume's whereabouts remains unknown.

SCREENSHOTS.
Wazee II: the parties imposed two options, or else:


Wazee II: A brief signed by the DOJ:


Wazee I, 2nd amended complaint: Hamish Hume challenged the NWS 2.0, not like David Thompson who loves it. The self proclaimed "unsophisticated, not regulatory lawyer. I am a litigator" in a conference call hosted by the hedge fund manager Pagliara. His shield for his misbehavior in court freely.


Wazee I: the attorney Hamish Hume had a scheduled appeal.


Wazee I: Appeal relinquished when Hamish Hume, under pressure, voluntarily dismissed the case two days before:


Wazee II: after an abrupt appearance in the district court, the attorney D.Thompson signed the amended complaint on July 1st. An exact replica of his other frivolous lawsuits that the attorney for Fairholme also seized control of abruptly, in order to control the flawed narrative (Rop, Bhatti, Collins, Robinson): cover-ups of statutory provisions (FHEFSSA and Charter Act), the count of 210 days for the Time Limitation of Acting Director DeMarco (July 20, 2011 Final Rule that had a surprise: CFR 1237.12), plus the one based on Financial Statement fraud in FnF.
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Wise Man Wise Man 1 day ago
khompt19 is a very rogue person. No deference to someone that repeats that the statutory provision Restriction on Capital Distributions is when FnF have a capital classification of Undercapitalized, when it states undercapitalized and IN GENERAL.
Image below.
Just what Sandra Thompson and the Financial Services Committee state, to name a few:
FnF remain undercapitalized.
And the exception to the restriction: Reduce the SPS. (U.S. Code 4614(e)), which is what has happened to legalize the capital distributions that went through despite the restriction.
Then, DeMarco enacted the July 20, 2011 Final Rule, for the moment the SPS had been fully paid down, the FHFA and the UST needed another exception to continue to send assessments to UST (1989 FHLB-style) in the form of capital distributions, that is, under the guise of dividend payments: Deplete capital is authorized (Balance Sheet) for their Recapitalization, in an External Position obviously (exceptions 1, 2, 3 and 4 in the supplemental CFR 1237.12). Image below.
A follow-on plan.

He is also famous for saying that the $132B SPS LP absent from the Balance Sheet is off-balance sheet and it doesn't affect the companies, as if it could even be possible to have a Liability out there, as a satellite position, not meeting the Asset/Liability Matching principle and, secondly, FnF report their Financial Statements on a consolidated bases.

Therefore, FnF MUST show up 2 items, because what lies behind is the reluctance to post the offset with the reduction of the Retained Earnings account that happens always that someone hands out a security for free (Not getting the corresponding cash, like occurred with the initial $1B SPS issued for free debited from the Additional Paid-In Capital account. Also in the case of stock dividends, debited from the Retained Earnings account, etc.), so that the plotters like Ackman and Sandra Thompson repeat:
FnF continue to build capital through retain earnings.
As seen in this image showing the changes in Equity adjusted for the gifted SPS LP every quarter, in an amount equal to the Net Worth increase:


Which is what the attorney Hamish Hume referred to, in his 2nd amended complaint with Wazee in the Court of Federal Claims with judge Sweeney:
FnF start building their Net Worth, while also providing that 100% of that Net Worth would be owned solely by Treasury.
Surprisingly, he relinquished the appeal two day before it was scheduled on May 24th.
FnF are building SPS (capital stock), not regulatory capital for their financial rehabilitation:
▪️Adjusted Accumulated Deficit Retained Earnings account: $-216B.
▪️Adjusted $402B Core Capital shortfall over Minimum Capital (Leverage) Level.
That is, the same Common Equity Sweep as before with the NWS dividend. Both debited from the Retained Earnings account (Core Capital and CET1), the only account that absorbs the future "unexpected" losses.

What kthompt19 conceals is that this new compensation to the UST is another capital distribution (also number 1 in the definition of capital distribution) restricted, and thus, necessarily, the Common Equity being swept is, in truth, held in escrow (exception 1, 2, 3 and 4 to the restriction on capital distribution, CFR 1237.12 mentioned before) in order to legalize this capital distribution.
Also, in order to comply with the FHFA-C's Rehab power: Put FnF in a sound and solvent condition, related to regulatory capital levels.

The key: when people see the image posted above, they would begin to wonder whether it happened the same with the dividend payments (restricted and the exception: reduce the SPS), and all the Separate Account plan would come to light, for those that hadn't spotted it beforehand.

This is why just these two twists from the rogue khtompt19 denounced in this post, are of supreme importance, because he uses it to justify that $435B of capital in private corporations under Conservatorship have been syphoned off to the UST.

The frivolous litigation and their social media crew, work hand-in-hand with the government in what is known as Fanniegate.

The litigants haven't submitted to court a Financial Statement, attempting to portray FnF as Mutual Funds, like the FHA's MMIF, when FnF are private corporations presenting Financial Statements in their reports filed with the S.E.C., which is also why kthompt19 claims that having $132B SPS LP out there, unaccounted for in the Balance Sheets, is just fine, because it doesn't affect the companies.



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DCBill DCBill 1 day ago
Calabria, a victim of his non-housing background and conservative dogma; Thompson, empty-suit, who was put into a job over her business capacity head and made subject to Treasury protocol.
They wanted to control GSEs--claiming "inadequate capital"-- then allow them to operate too successfully, making major "insiders," in both political parties look bad.
Sixteen years, now more, of unprecedented "Conservartorhsip," based on a well-documented 2008 political ambush that made no financial sense with few courageous people--outside of the companies--able to appreciate the Treasury bias and errors.
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Guido2 Guido2 1 day ago
Please respond to FHFA. I did.

FHFA is one of 6 federal regulatory agencies who today issued a final rule, pursuant to the Dodd-Frank Act, designed to help ensure credibility & integrity of models used in valuations for certain mortgages secured by a consumer’s principal dwelling. https://t.co/nOZrJ4vmYw pic.twitter.com/Yk3b7YzEzL— FHFA (@FHFA) July 17, 2024
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 1 day ago
FAKE NEWS!!! FAKE NEWS!!! lol.
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PennMilitia PennMilitia 1 day ago
kthomp19 works for the GOVT
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krab krab 1 day ago
The reason: US GOVT don't care a shit about the people they represent.
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juicyjuice10002 juicyjuice10002 2 days ago
How does the USA government explain the investors around the world that JURY has called the treasury a thief?
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